Fictitious Force: What Makes It Fictitious?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of fictitious forces, particularly in the context of non-inertial frames of reference. Participants explore the nature of these forces and their distinction from real forces, using examples such as a car moving in a circular path.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the definition of fictitious forces and question what makes them "fictitious." They explore the relationship between fictitious forces and real forces, particularly in non-inertial frames, and consider the implications of acceleration and balanced forces.

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Some participants express understanding and appreciation for the explanations provided, indicating that the discussion has been productive. There is an exploration of different interpretations of fictitious forces and their role in applying Newton's laws.

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Participants reference the need for fictitious forces to account for perceived acceleration in non-inertial frames, suggesting a focus on the conceptual underpinnings rather than mathematical formulations.

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[SOLVED] What is fictitious force?

Hi.

I was wondering if someone would be able to explain to me what is meant by fictitious force? I know that it is a force that acts on masses in a non-inertial frame of reference. That is to say, the motion of the car from the view of the driver, for example. But what makes it "fictitious"?

Thanks. :)
 
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"Real" forces have actors, something that exerts the force; "fictitious" forces do not. Take an example of a car racing around a circular track. There is a real centripetal force acting on the car: The road exerts a frictional force on the car. The road is the actor.

Fictitious forces are just artifacts of viewing things from a non-inertial reference frame, required to make use of Newton's laws. Viewed from the frame of the car, there's a centrifugal force acting outwards. Don't bother asking what exerts that force, since it's not a real force.

Does that help a bit?
 
I think so...

So its fictitious because the force is not placed directly on the object, but is in a manner of speaking a by-product (in your example, of the centripetal force acting on the car)?
 
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BitXBit said:
So its fictitious because the force is not placed directly on the object, but is in a manner of speaking a by-product (in your example, of the centripetal force acting on the car)?

Yup, that sounds about right. I think Pseudo-forces (that is how I heard them to be called most often) as accounting for the acceleration. What I mean by this is that acceleration happens when you don't have balanced forces, so to pretend that you have no acceleration when you are in the non-inertial frame, you have to add this fictional pseudo-force to cancel the acceleration.
 
Ah! I understand! Thank you both for your help! :D
 

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