Final velocity with air resistance

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving an object shot vertically upward with an initial velocity and experiencing air resistance. The original poster has solved the first part of the problem, which involves calculating the maximum height reached by the object, but is struggling with the second part, which asks for the speed of the object upon hitting the ground.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply their understanding from the first part of the problem to the second part but is confused about the effects of air resistance during descent. Some participants suggest adjusting the analysis based on the known height and initial velocity, while others question the interpretation of the air resistance term.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and prompting the original poster to reconsider their approach. There is no explicit consensus, but some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the two parts of the problem and the nature of air resistance.

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The original poster expresses frustration about the lack of direct solutions and indicates a desire for more explicit guidance, which is not provided in this forum context. There is also mention of the original poster's work being shared in attachments for review.

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Ok so I am working on this problem and can only get through the first question, the second question keeps stumping me.

I have uploaded the question along with my calculations for part a so you can see what I'm doing.


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A object of mass (m) is shot vertically up with V0 200 m/s.
Air resistance R is proportional with the square root of the velocity, R= -mkv^2
where k= 0.010m-1

a) How high does the object reach.

This one I have solved:

h= (1/2k) * ln [(g+kv^2)/g]


b)

What is the speed the object has when it hits the ground?

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I just can't get the right answer to b, I keep getting the same velovity as V0 which can't be right.

IF it is possible to hand write your work or write it mathematically I would really appreciate it.


My work in attachment as both .pdf or .jpg, whatever you prefer.

In advance, thank you very much!
 

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You looked like you understood what was going on in solving the first part. Why did you give up on the second part?

Remember, the second part is slightly different from the first. From solving the first part, you know how far the object must fall, and you know its initial velocity. Can't you adjust your analysis from the first part to reflect this?

And no, no one is going to write it out neatly for you; you must do the work yourself.
 
Think a bit about the term -kmv2. It doesn't change sign when your object starts to descend.
 
Do you mean the air resistance is proportional to the velocity squared. I think that is what you have written as an equation.
 
SteamKing said:
You looked like you understood what was going on in solving the first part. Why did you give up on the second part?

Remember, the second part is slightly different from the first. From solving the first part, you know how far the object must fall, and you know its initial velocity. Can't you adjust your analysis from the first part to reflect this?

And no, no one is going to write it out neatly for you; you must do the work yourself.

Ok. I did not realize that no one will show me the solution here or I wouldn't have bothered posting. No point then is there.

Thanks for the input everyone, I can't find a delete button maybe a mod can delete the thread for me?
 
I'm sorry you feel that way. We can't help you if you are not willing to help yourself and put forth some effort.
 

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