Find all subgroups of the given group

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The discussion revolves around finding all subgroups of the group (\mathbb{Z}_{12}, +, 0). Participants explore methods for identifying these subgroups and discuss the properties of the elements that generate them.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes generating subgroups from each element of the group and lists the subgroups identified.
  • Another participant suggests that the method of generating subgroups by hand is the most straightforward approach, indicating that there may not be a more clever method.
  • A participant questions whether the approach of focusing on elements with a GCD greater than 1 with the modulus (12) is valid for generating interesting subgroups.
  • Another participant notes that the identified subgroups are cyclic and prompts the original poster to consider the existence of non-cyclic subgroups.
  • A later reply mentions the relationship between the subgroups of \(\mathbb{Z}\) and \(\mathbb{Z}/n\) through surjections, suggesting a potential avenue for understanding subgroup structure.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method of generating subgroups by examining individual elements, but there is uncertainty regarding whether this method captures all possible subgroups, particularly non-cyclic ones. Multiple viewpoints on the approach to subgroup generation remain present.

Contextual Notes

There is an acknowledgment that the method may not be comfortable for more complex groups, and the discussion does not resolve whether all subgroups can be identified using the proposed methods.

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Hi all,

I've been practising some algebra excercises and don't know how to solve this one:

Given the group (\mathbb{Z}_{12}, +, 0), find all its subgroups. How many elements will have these subgroups?

The only idea which came to my mind is to see the subgroups generated by each individual element of the given group. So I got:

<br /> \langle0\rangle = \{0\}<br />

<br /> \langle1\rangle = \mathbb{Z}_{12}<br />

<br /> \langle2\rangle = \{0,2,4,6,8,10\}<br />

<br /> \langle3\rangle = \{0,3,6,9\}<br />

<br /> \langle4\rangle = \{0,4,8\}<br />

<br /> \langle5\rangle = \mathbb{Z}_{12}<br />

<br /> \langle6\rangle = \{0,6\}<br />

<br /> \langle7\rangle = \mathbb{Z}_{12}<br />

<br /> \langle8\rangle = \{0,4,8\}<br />

<br /> \langle9\rangle = \{0,3,6,9\}<br />

<br /> \langle10\rangle = \{0,2,4,6,8,10\}<br />

<br /> \langle11\rangle = \mathbb{Z}_{12}<br />


So after removing duplicities, I have 6 subgroups:

<br /> \mathbb{Z}_{12}<br />

<br /> \{0\}<br />

<br /> \{0,6\}<br />

<br /> \{0,4,8\}<br />

<br /> \{0,3,6,9\}<br />

<br /> \{0,2,4,6,8,10\}<br />


But since my approach was rather non-rigorous, I wonder if these are all subgroups of the original subgroup. Is there a chance (when using this approach) that I miss some subgroup?

It seems that I can take care only of elements of the original group, which have some common divisor with module (12) greater than 1, because only they seem to generate some interesting subgroups, other elements (5,7,9,10,11) generate always the whole group. Is this also a rule?

I just would like to know some more general approach to find all subgroups of given group, because if the group gets more complicated than this example, this doesn't seem to be comfortable way to do that.

Thank you for any advice.

Best regards.
 
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There really is no better method than simply working them out by hand like this. Sorry if you wanted a clever way of doing it. In general there isn't.
 
matt grime said:
There really is no better method than simply working them out by hand like this. Sorry if you wanted a clever way of doing it. In general there isn't.

Thank you matt. Is it true that I'll get all subgroups doing it this way? Can't I miss any? And if so, may I restrict myself to generating subgroups from elements which have GCD with module of the group > 1?
 
You have classified the cyclic subgroups. It is now up to you to try to decide if there are non-cyclic subgroups.
 
if you know the subgroups of Z, you might look at the surjection from Z to Z/n and use the fact that the inverse image of a subgroup is a subgroup.
 

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