Find cos8A Using cos2A=sqrt(m)

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The discussion revolves around finding the value of cos8A given that cos2A equals the square root of m. Participants explore various trigonometric identities and methods to derive the expression for cos8A, while also addressing a separate problem involving the cosine of the difference of two angles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant starts with the identity cos2A = (cosA)^2 - (sinA)^2 to find cos8A.
  • Another suggests using the half-angle identity for cosine, leading to the equation (1 + cos(4A))/2 = m.
  • A participant calculates an expression resulting in 8m^2 - 8 + 1 for cos8A.
  • There is a shift in the discussion as another participant introduces a new problem involving angles A and B, asking for help with finding cos(A-B).
  • Responses include calculations for cos(A-B) using the angle sum and difference formula, with one participant confirming their result as 0.8.
  • Another participant corrects the cosine value for angle A, noting it should be -3/5 due to A being in quadrant 2.
  • Further clarification leads to a revised calculation for cos(A-B) resulting in -44/125.
  • One participant reiterates the use of the identity cos2A = 2cos^2A - 1 to derive cos8A, leading to a similar expression of 8m^2 - 8m + 1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches to the problem of finding cos8A, with no consensus on a single method. Additionally, there are differing views on the calculations for cos(A-B), leading to some corrections and confirmations, but no final agreement on the values presented.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations and assumptions about angle quadrants are discussed, but there are unresolved steps in the mathematical reasoning, particularly regarding the transition from cos2A to cos8A and the implications of angle positions on cosine values.

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If cos2A=sqrt(m) find cos8A

I used cos2A = (cosA)^2-(sinA)^2

Please help me continue
 
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Instead of a double-angle identity for cosine, try the half-angle identity:

$$\cos\left(\frac{\theta}{2}\right)=\sqrt{\frac{1+\cos(\theta)}{2}}$$

So, what you get is:

$$\frac{1+\cos(4A)}{2}=m$$

Can you continue?
 
I get 8m^2-8+1.

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If sinA=4/5, A isin quadrant 2, sinB=7/25 B is in quadrant 1. Find cos (A-B)

What I did is find A and B by getting the arcsin of both sinA and sinB

The get the value for cos(A-B)

is my method correct. Please help. Thanks.
 
Hi NotaMathPerson. In future, please start a new thread for each new problem. This helps prevent the original thread from becoming convoluted. :)

For your first problem I get $8m^2-8m+1$.

For your second problem, can you calculate the values of cos(A) and cos(B) and then use the angle sum and difference formula for cosine:

cos(A - B) = cos(A)cos(B) + sin(A)sin(B)

?
 
Hello!

I get cos(A-B)=(3/5)(24/25)+(4/5)(7/25)= 0.8 is thus correct?
 
As angle A is quadrant 2, cos(A) = -3/5.
 
greg1313 said:
As angle A is quadrant 2, cos(A) = -3/5.

Oh yes. I forgot.

It should be -44/125
 
NotaMathPerson said:
\text{If }\,\cos2A\,=\,\sqrt{m},\,\text{ find }\cos8A.

\text{I used: }\,\cos2A =\, \,\cos^2A -\sin^2A

Please help me continue.
Instead, use: \cos2A \:=\:2\cos^2\!A - 1

\begin{array}{cccccc}\text{Then:} &amp; \cos4A &amp;=&amp; 2\cos^2\!2A-1 \\ \\<br /> <br /> \text{And:} &amp; \cos8A &amp; =&amp; 2\cos^2\!4A-1 \\ \\ <br /> <br /> &amp;&amp; = &amp; 2(2\cos^2\!2A - 1)^2 - 1 \\ \\<br /> <br /> &amp;&amp; = &amp; 2(4\cos^4\!2A - 4\cos^2\!2A + 1) - 1 \\ \\<br /> <br /> &amp;&amp; = &amp; 8\cos^4\!2A - 8\cos^2\!2A + 2 - 1 \\ \\<br /> <br /> &amp;&amp; = &amp; 8\cos^42A - 8\cos^22A + 1 \\ \\<br /> <br /> &amp;&amp; = &amp; 8(\sqrt{m})^4 - 8(\sqrt{m})^2 + 1 \\ \\<br /> <br /> &amp;&amp; = &amp; 8m^2 - 8m + 1<br /> \end{array}
 

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