Is there an easier way to do single integrals of the form (sinx)^n (cosx)^m dx?

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The discussion focuses on finding efficient methods for evaluating single integrals of the form *integral* (sinx)^n (cosx)^m dx, where n and m are integers. Participants explore various approaches, including substitutions and reduction formulas, particularly in the context of vector calculus.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration with the complexity of integrating (sinx)^n (cosx)^m and seeks a quicker method or common integrals to learn.
  • Another participant mentions that reduction formulas in tables of integrals exist for these types but are not necessarily time-saving.
  • A participant provides a specific method for integrating *integral* cosx (sinx)^2 dx using substitution, suggesting it simplifies to 1/(n+1)sin^(n+1)(x).
  • There is a request for clarification on the notation used in the substitution method, particularly regarding the differential and the concept of not introducing a new variable.
  • Another participant clarifies that the notation refers to the differential of a function and relates it to integration by substitution.
  • A participant acknowledges the cleverness of the method and expresses appreciation for the explanation provided.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method for integrating these types of functions, as various approaches and levels of understanding are presented. Some methods are discussed as potentially quicker, but no definitive agreement on a universal solution is established.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of notation and the understanding of substitution methods, which may affect the ability to apply the proposed techniques universally.

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what is the quick way of doing single integrals of the form:

*integral* (sinx)^n (cosx)^m dx

where n and m are just integers. These kind of integrals come up all the time in vector calculus and they take me ages to do. Is there a general method of doing them or a few common integrals i could learn? I end up having to apply about 3 trig identites and then sorting out the mess of resulting sinxs, cosx, cos2x etc

an eg would be

*integral* cosx (sinx)^2 dx

I would do this by using (sinx)^2 + (cosx)^2 = 1
then cos^2= 1/2(1 +cos2A)
then cosCcosD=1/2(cos(C+D) + cos(C-D))

Which takes about a side and a half of a4. There must be a simpler way (substitutions, change of variables?)
 
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Most tables of integrals have a reduction formula for those kinds of integrals. But that's not exactly time saving either.
 
halfoflessthan5 said:
*integral* cosx (sinx)^2 dx
This particular one is easy to do (using f'(x)dx=df(x) and substitution without a new named variable):
[tex]\int \sin^n x \cos x dx = \int \sin^n x d(\sin x) = \frac1{n+1}\sin^{n+1}(x)[/tex]
 
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Eighty said:
This particular one is easy to do (using f'(x)dx=df(x) and substitution without a new named variable):
[tex]\int \sin^n x \cos x dx = \int \sin^n x d(\sin x) = \frac1{n+1}\sin^{n+1}(x)[/tex]

sorry I am not sure i understand that. what is f'(x)dx=df(x)? (ive probably done that type of integration before but not with that name or notation. is that 'd' as in 'dx' or just a constant) and I am not sure what substitution "without a new named variable means" either :confused:

your method definitely looks quicker and more sensible
 
By df(x) he means the differential of f, which is equal to f'(x)dx
 
It's the same as integration by substitution with u=sin(x). Work it out, and you'll see. I keep calling it sin(x) rather than u though, since I have to get back to it eventually.
 
yeh, okay. and when you change the dx to dt you get 1/cosx which cancels the one in the integrand. very clever

thankyou Eighty , much appreciated
 

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