Find Current Through Battery in Circuit: 3/11 or 21/19?

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The discussion revolves around a circuit problem where the objective is to find the current through a battery. Participants are analyzing a circuit configuration that involves resistors and are attempting to apply the delta to wye (Y) transformation to simplify the circuit for calculations.

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  • Participants are discussing the configuration of resistors, specifically a Y connection, and attempting to derive the equivalent resistance. There are questions about the application of the delta to Y transformation and the interpretation of resistance values. Some participants express confusion regarding the formulas being used and the equivalence of the circuits.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing various insights and clarifications about the circuit's configuration. Some have offered guidance on using the delta to Y conversion, while others are questioning the clarity of the formulas and the drawings presented. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final answer yet.

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Participants are working with a circuit diagram that is not visible in the thread, which may lead to misunderstandings. There are references to specific resistor values and configurations that are under discussion but not fully clarified.

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Homework Statement


the image of circuit is in attachment
the question is to find the current through the battery

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I think that there is a y connection
so above two and centered one form y from formula the whole resistance is 1
than I imagine bottomed ones and this and above ones as new y type connection and
I get 1/R = 1/(1/1 + 1/2 + 1/3) and r is equal to 11
all in all the current should be I=U/R = 3/11
but in book the answer is 21/19
please help
 

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you can use delta to y conversion
 
giokrutoi said:
I think that there is a y connection
so above two and centered one form y from formula the whole resistance is 1

Please show the formula used and the details of how you applied it for your Y to Δ transformation. What do you mean by the "whole resistance is 1"?
 
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this is the your current equivalent circuit you could change it to the form of
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using
sorry for my poor drawing skills
 
1/R = 1/(1/r1+1/r2+ 1/r3)
 
i am sorry i will draw again
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the 3 and 2 are the same old resistors but Ra , Rb , Rc are resistances to be determined using the delta to y conversion hope this clears up
what i am saying is that this circuit is equivalent to the old circuit if proper values of resistance for a b and c are used
 
giokrutoi said:
1/R = 1/(1/r1+1/r2+ 1/r3)
i don't understand what formula that is
 
giokrutoi said:
1/R = 1/(1/r1+1/r2+ 1/r3)

This is the formula for finding the equivalent resistance of 3 resistors in parallel. Not the delta-wye formula.
 

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