Find Energies Bound States Potential Well: Time Independent SE

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The discussion revolves around finding the energies for the bound states of a potential well defined by specific potential values in different regions. The subject area is quantum mechanics, specifically focusing on the Time Independent Schrödinger Equation (TISE) and its application to potential wells.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to begin solving the problem, indicating a need for guidance on applying the TISE. Some participants suggest writing the TISE for different regions and solving those equations to understand the wave function behavior. There is also discussion about the implications of being in a bound state.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing clarifications and suggestions for approaching the TISE. There is recognition of the need to apply boundary conditions and determine constants, but no explicit consensus on the next steps has been reached.

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The original poster notes a lack of experience with differential equations, which may be impacting their understanding of the problem. There is also mention of the infinite potential region and its implications for the wave function.

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Homework Statement


Find the energies for the bound states of a potential well with the following potential:
V(x)= +∞ for x<0
-V0 for 0<x<a
0 for x>a


Homework Equations


Time Independent Schrödinger Equation.

The Attempt at a Solution


I really do not know where to start; I've read through my text, looked through my notes, and am unsure of what to do. I think that you have to solve the SE; but I'm not sure how to, or if that is what you have to do. That seems to be the common thing through all of the physical systems we have discussed in class. Thanks in advance.
 
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What does it mean for the particle to be in a bound state? Write the TISE in the region 0 < x < a and x > a and then solve those equations to obtain the behavior of the wave function in each region. Use the boundary conditions to determine the constants, with which you can extract the allowed energies.
 
Thank you CAF123; that makes sense. I must admit, I have not had a diff equations class yet, so I am very confused by them. However, I do understand what you mean by applying the TISE to each region of the well. Thanks again.
 
With CAF123's help, i was able to come up with the following differential equations for each region of the potential well.
REGION 1.)
\frac{\partial^2ψ}{\partial x^2}=\frac{-2m}{h^2}Eψ

REGION 2.)
\frac{\partial^2ψ}{\partial x^2}=\frac{-2m}{h^2}(E+V0

REGION 3.)
This region blows up to infinity; since the well was defined as having infinite potential (V(x)=∞) with x< 0, adding infinity to the SE blows it up. This just heads to infinity.

I am unsure of what to do next; I know that this has to be solved, I just don't know how to do it. Any pointers would be great. Thanks.
PS: h is not just Planck's constant, but it is h-bar. Thanks again.
 
classical_phys said:
REGION 1.)
\frac{\partial^2ψ}{\partial x^2}=\frac{-2m}{h^2}Eψ

REGION 2.)
\frac{\partial^2ψ}{\partial x^2}=\frac{-2m}{h^2}(E+V0
This is correct, although you do not need partial derivatives here. ##\psi## is an eigenstate of the Hamiltonian and as such does not depend on time, only x, so a total derivative is fine here.

REGION 3.)
This region blows up to infinity; since the well was defined as having infinite potential (V(x)=∞) with x< 0, adding infinity to the SE blows it up. This just heads to infinity.
The region x < 0 is a non-physical region, so we set ##\psi = 0## here.

I am unsure of what to do next; I know that this has to be solved, I just don't know how to do it.
Perhaps check your notes or a textbook. It is quite common for the infinite potential to be worked and then the step potential. The solutions in the regions are oscillatory motion and decaying exponential.
 

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