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Find equilibruium position for charged partical problem

  1. Sep 18, 2006 #1
    Find equilibrium position for charged particle problem

    3 charged particles on y axis. A third particle is somewhere such that the resultant force on it is zero.

    What is distance from 0rigin of x y axis to Q 3.

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    Node: for partical 3, thats the absolute value of 3 microcolumbs (not 131, those are absolute value things :P)... i'm assuming it's positive for this.

    So I drew up a free body diagram for Forces on 3 net.

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    So,

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    Ok so how do I figure out which is the correct value of y?

    [their are 3 image above...if you cant see them, then it'll look like i didn't do any work]
     
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  3. Sep 18, 2006 #2

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    What range of values for y makes sense?
     
  4. Sep 18, 2006 #3
    i'd say above Q1...so distance from y axis =

    2m + 5.84992=7.84992 or
    2m + 2.29823=4.29823

    hmm...unless... it's that distance (5.84992 or 2.29823) below q1 and under q2... that makes more sense.

    so

    2m - 5.84992=-3.84992 or
    2m - 2.29823=-0.29823

    below q1
     
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  5. Sep 18, 2006 #4

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    Before you even start "turning the crank" on a problem such as this, first ask yourself: What region must the 3rd charge be in? There are three choices:
    (1) Above Q1
    (2) Between Q1 and Q2
    (3) Below Q2
    Only one region allows for the possibility of equilibrium. Which? (Think it through. Imagine that the third charge is a negative charge.) Once you figure out which region Q3 must be in, then you'll know which answer is correct.
     
  6. Sep 20, 2006 #5
    I figured it out...only took a few days :rofl:

    Q3 is the negative charge between q1 and q2.

    http://focusedwolf.googlepages.com/work.png

    I know the anser is right cause the it gets submitted online and was confirmed to be correct. Just don't know if my way of picking the right X is right.
     
  7. Sep 20, 2006 #6

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    You should be able to figure out which of the three potential regions is the only one that makes sense without doing any calculations. Realize that Q1 and Q2 are both positive. For Q3 above Q1 (or below Q2) the forces on Q3 would add instead of cancel. So the answer must be between Q1 and Q2.
     
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