Find h⁻¹(x): Expression for x in terms of y

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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse of the function h(x) = (3x - 5) / (7 - 2x). Participants are exploring how to express x in terms of y, focusing on the algebraic manipulation required to derive h⁻¹(x).

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss various methods for rearranging the equation to isolate x. Some express confusion about the correct approach to swapping variables and the order of operations. Others suggest starting with the original function and applying algebraic rules to derive the inverse.

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The conversation is ongoing, with multiple participants offering different perspectives on the process of finding the inverse function. Some guidance has been provided regarding the initial steps to take, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

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There are mentions of differing approaches to variable swapping and the notation used for functions and their inverses, indicating a potential area of confusion among participants.

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If h(x)=(3x-5)/(7-2x)

Find an expression for h^-1(x)





Here's my attempt!

y=(3x-5)/(7-2x)

(swap x for y): x=(3y-5)/(7-2y)

I've tried rearranging to find y in terms of x but I can't see how to do it!

x(-2y)=(3y-5)/7

-2y=(3y-5)/7

-2y/3y=-5/x
 
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You don't swap them in that manner. You try and rearrange so you get x as a function of y. More an issue of semantics I believe.
 
Let's say your function was y = f(x) = 1/(1+x) over x < -1 or -1 < x. Then 1/y = 1+x so x = 1/y - 1. That is x = f-1(y) = 1/y - 1 over y < 0 or 0 < y.
 
Did you try to multiply both sides by the denominator, distribute the y, then group your terms with x, then factor out the x?
 
Oh i think I've got it:

y=(3x-5)/(7-2y)
x=(3y-5)/(7-2y)
7x-2xy=3y-5
-2xy-3y=-5-7x
y(-2x-3)=-5-7x
y=(-5-7x)/(-2x-3)=h^-1(x)
 
Thanks for your help! xxx
 
You should start with y = (3x-5)/(7-2x) [not y=(3x-5)/(7-2y)] then apply the rules of elementary algebra until you have x = g(y).

I'll give you the first step: (7-2x)y = (3x-5)
 
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EnumaElish said:
You should start with y = (3x-5)/(7-2x) [not y=(3x-5)/(7-2y)] then apply the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elemen...lementary_algebra]rules of elementary algebra until you have x = g(y).

I'll give you the first step: (7-2x)y = (3x-5)
Some books teach the variable switch first… but normally you show it in one step, not 2.

p.s. you probably want to factor out those negatives just to make it look pretty.
 
nirvana1990 said:
Oh i think I've got it:

y=(3x-5)/(7-2y)
x=(3y-5)/(7-2y)
7x-2xy=3y-5
-2xy-3y=-5-7x
y(-2x-3)=-5-7x
y=(-5-7x)/(-2x-3)=h^-1(x)
This is correct, except I would've switched the variables at the end.
 
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Thats interesting, I've never seen the variables being swapped first so that threw me a bit. Is that just to maintain the notation that we usually have y = f(x).
 
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Kurdt said:
Thats interesting, I've never seen the variables being swapped first so that threw me a bit. Is that just to maintain the notation that we usually have y = f(x).
no clue, i always thought it was silly myself. But they do.
 
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Kurdt said:
Thats interesting, I've never seen the variables being swapped first so that threw me a bit. Is that just to maintain the notation that we usually have y = f(x).

Yes, it is. If the initial function is given as y=f(x) the inverse function should also probably be stated as y=f^(-1)(x) so x is the independent variable in both. That's all. You can swap at the end if you like.
 

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