Find Length of Curve Between Two X Values

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The discussion revolves around finding the length of a curve between two x values, exploring methods applicable in both two-dimensional and three-dimensional contexts, as well as considerations for non-rectangular coordinate systems such as spherical coordinates.

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  • One participant inquires about the method to find the length of a curve between two x values.
  • Another participant provides a formula for calculating the length of a curve in two dimensions using the element of length ds and integrating over the specified interval.
  • A further contribution extends the discussion to three dimensions, suggesting a similar integration approach that includes the z component.
  • A participant raises a question about finding the length of a curve in non-rectangular coordinate systems, specifically spherical coordinates.
  • In response, another participant asserts that the same formulas can be applied by converting the coordinates appropriately, providing an example of a path in spherical coordinates and its Cartesian equivalent.
  • One participant also offers encouragement regarding language proficiency, emphasizing that the inquiry is valid regardless of language skills.

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Participants present multiple methods for calculating curve length, and while there is agreement on the formulas for rectangular coordinates, the discussion on non-rectangular systems introduces differing perspectives on the application of these formulas.

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The discussion does not resolve the complexities involved in applying the length calculation in non-rectangular coordinate systems, nor does it clarify any assumptions or limitations regarding the coordinate transformations.

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Individuals interested in mathematical methods for calculating curve lengths, particularly in varying coordinate systems, may find this discussion beneficial.

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is there a way to find the length of a curve between two x values?
if so, what is it.
thanks
 
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Yes since the element of length is (assuming two dimensions)

[tex]ds=\sqrt{dx^2+dy^2}[/tex]

If you integrate you get the length of the curve [itex]s[/itex] from [itex][a,b][/itex]

[tex]s=\int_a^b \sqrt{\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)^2+\left(\frac{dy}{dt}\right)^2}dt=\int_a^b \sqrt{1+\left(\frac{dy}{dx}\right)^2}dx[/tex]
 
In three dimensions, write x, y, z as functions of parameter t and do the same:
[tex]\int_a^b \sqrt{\left(\frac{dx}{dt}\right)^2+ \left(\frac{dy}{dt}\right)^2+ \left(\frac{dz}{dt}\right)^2}dt[/tex]
 
I am sorry for my broken english.

How can one find the length of a curve, if the coordinate system is not rectangular (for instance, it is spherical)?

Please if not inconvenient to you, point out my mistakes in my english.
 
By using exactly the same formulas but converting from the other coordinate system.

For example, suppose a path is given in spherical coordinates by [itex]\rho= 1[/itex], [itex]\phi= \pi/3[/itex], [itex]\theta= t[/itex], with parameter t. In Cartesian coordinates that is [itex]x= \rho cos(\theta) sin(\phi)= (\sqrt{3}/2)cos(t)[/itex], [itex]y= \rho sin(\theta)sin(\phi)= (\sqrt{3}/2)sin(t)[/itex], [itex]z= \rho cos(t)= cos(t)[/itex].

And my only criticism is that you should stop apologizing for your English. It is excellent. Far better than my (put whatever language you wish in here!).
 

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