Find Length of Curve y=(2/3)(x^2+1)^(3/2)

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The problem involves finding the length of the curve defined by the equation y=(2/3)(x^2+1)^(3/2) over the interval from x=3 to x=9. The discussion centers around the application of calculus, specifically the arc length formula.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the derivative of the function and its implications for calculating the length of the curve. There are attempts to apply the chain rule and clarify the expression for the derivative. Some participants question the correctness of the derivative calculations and suggest revisiting the chain rule.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the derivative and its squared form. There is a suggestion to simplify the expression under the square root, indicating a productive direction in the conversation.

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Participants are working within the constraints of homework guidelines, focusing on understanding the differentiation process and the setup for the integral without providing complete solutions.

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Homework Statement


find the length of the following curve.


Homework Equations


y=(2/3)(x^2 +1)^(3/2) from x=3 to x=9.


The Attempt at a Solution


f'(x) = 2x^3 + 2x
f'(x)^2 = 4x^6 + 8x^4 + 4x^2

L = integral (3,9) sqrt(1+4x^6 + 8x^4 + 4x^2)
 
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hi whatlifeform! :smile:
whatlifeforme said:
y=(2/3)(x^2 +1)^(3/2) from x=3 to x=9.

f'(x) = 2x^3 + 2x

no, you've got muddled :confused:

try the chain rule again :smile:
 
dy/dx = (2x) (x^2 + 1) ^ (1/2)
(dy/dx)^2 = 4x^2 (x^2+1)

L = integral (3,9) sqrt(1+4x^4 + 4x^2)
 
whatlifeforme said:
dy/dx = (2x) (x^2 + 1) ^ (1/2)
(dy/dx)^2 = 4x^2 (x^2+1)

L = integral (3,9) sqrt(1+4x^4 + 4x^2)

Yes. Can you see a simplification?
 
ie, what is √(4x4 + 4x2 + 1) ? :smile:
 
tiny-tim said:
ie, what is √(4x4 + 4x2 + 1) ? :smile:

take the integral of this?
 
Write the expression under the square-root as the square of something.
 

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