Find Magnittude of the Force Supported by the bearing O

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude of the force supported by bearing O in a system involving two pulleys and an applied load of 3.5 kN. Participants explore the problem through mathematical reasoning and attempt to identify errors in their calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the angle θ using arctan(130/285) and finds the tension in the cable, leading to the calculation of forces Rx and Ry.
  • Another participant suggests that the initial answer may be incorrect due to significant figure errors, proposing a rounded answer of 7.5 kN.
  • A later reply indicates that the tolerance for the answer is +/- 1 to the third significant digit, suggesting that 7.5 kN may not be accurate.
  • One participant identifies a mistake in the angle calculation, stating it should be arcsin(130/285) instead of arctan, leading to revised calculations for fx and fy.
  • The corrected calculations yield a resultant force of 7.644 kN, which one participant claims is the correct answer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the initial calculations and the correct method for determining the angle. There is no consensus on the final answer, as different values have been proposed and corrections made throughout the discussion.

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Participants rely on specific trigonometric functions to resolve the problem, and there are unresolved aspects regarding the initial assumptions made in the calculations. The discussion reflects the complexity of the problem and the iterative nature of finding a solution.

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The two light pulleys are fastened together and form an integral unit. They are prevented from turning about their bearing at O by a cable wound securely around the smaller pulley and fastened to point A. Calculate the magnitude R of the force supported by the bearing O for the applied 3.5-kN load.

I have attached an image of the problem.

Homework Statement





Homework Equations


ƩMO = 0
ƩFx =0
ƩFy =0

The Attempt at a Solution



First I found the angle between the positive x-axis and the cable (AB)

θ = arctan(130/285)
θ = 24.5196°

Then I found the moment about point to calculate the tension (T) in the cable
ƩMO = 0
0 = (3.5 kN)(200mm) -(130mm)T
T = 5.3846 kN

Then, knowing that the pivot point, O, has a force in the x direction (Rx) and a force in the y direction (Ry) I calculated these:

ƩFx= 0
0 = -Rx + Tcos(24.5196)
Rx = 4.899 kN

ƩFy = 0
0 = -3.5 kN + Ry -Tsin(24.5196)
Ry = 5.7305 kN

Thus the magnitude R is:

R = sqrt((4.899 kN)^2 +(5.7305 kN)^2)
R = 7.53914 kN

It says my answer is wrong and I can't see where my mistake is. Help would be appreciated.
 

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It's a significant figure error...too many places after the decimal point...try 7.5 kN
 
7.5 kN didn't work either. I forget to include this in the image but the system has a tolerance to +/- 1 to the third significant digit.
 
I found my mistake, the angle that I calculated using arctan(130/285) was wrong. It should have been arcsin(130/285) because 285mm is no the longest length of the triangle.

arcsin(130/285) = 27.138

Substituting 27.138 into my calculations I get fx = 4.7918kN and fy= 5.9561kN

Taking the magnitude of these gives me a resultant of 7.644 kN which is the correct answer.
 
Sorry, how did I miss that??
 

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