Find Min/Max/Inflection Point for f(x)=3x^5-10x^3+1

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The problem involves analyzing the function f(x)=3x^5-10x^3+1 to determine its maximum and minimum points, as well as points of inflection. The context is calculus, specifically focusing on the application of derivatives to identify these critical points.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the second derivative f''(x) and its implications for identifying inflection points. There is a focus on the values where f''(x)=0 and the subsequent analysis of the sign changes of the second derivative.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out potential errors in the differentiation process and are exploring the implications of these errors on the identification of inflection points. There is an ongoing examination of whether the second derivative changes sign at the identified points.

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There is a mention of differing interpretations of what constitutes an inflection point, particularly regarding the behavior of the second derivative at certain values. Participants are also considering the implications of the third derivative being zero at specific points.

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Homework Statement


The function f is defined as
f(x)=3x^5-10x^3+1
1) Determine the maximum and minimum points, as well the point of inflection of the graph f.

Homework Equations


All the differentiation equation.


3. The Attempt at a Solution

I found the maximum point and minimum point, but I had some trouble with the inflection point.

So...
f''(x)=60x^3-60x^2
f''(x)=0,
60x^3-60x^2=0
x=0, x=1

f'''(0)=0

Hence the only inflection point is (1,-6)

But the answer given is (0,1),(1,-6)and (-1,8). Is the answer correct?
 
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Not sure this should be in this topic as it is calculus not precalculus.

Have another look at your differentiation, in particular check the term -60x^2 in your expression for f''(x).
 
Harmony said:
f''(x)=60x^3-60x^2
This second derivative is wrong. Calculate it again.

Your approach is correct though.

marlon
 
Harmony said:

Homework Statement


The function f is defined as
f(x)=3x^5-10x^3+1
1) Determine the maximum and minimum points, as well the point of inflection of the graph f.

Homework Equations


All the differentiation equation.


3. The Attempt at a Solution

I found the maximum point and minimum point, but I had some trouble with the inflection point.

So...
f''(x)=60x^3-60x^2
f''(x)=0,
60x^3-60x^2=0
x=0, x=1

f'''(0)=0

Hence the only inflection point is (1,-6)

But the answer given is (0,1),(1,-6)and (-1,8). Is the answer correct?

f"(x)= 60x3- 60x= 60x(x2- 1)= 0
for x= 0, 1, and -1.

One definition of "inflection point" is that the second derivative changes sign there. Yes, it is true that since f '''(0)= 0, the second derivative might NOT change signs there. For example, if f ''= x2, then while f''(0)= 0, f'' does not change signs there. But f'''(0)= 0 does not mean it CAN'T change signs there. For example, if f ''= x3, then, again, f'''(x)= 3x2 so f'''(0)= 0 but x3 does change signs there.

In this particular case, f''(1/2)= 60/8- 120< 0 while f''(-1/2)= -60/8+120> 0 so f'' does change signs at 0.
 

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