Find pH of 0.20 M Iron (III) Sulfate

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The discussion revolves around determining the pH of a 0.20 M solution of Iron (III) sulfate, focusing on the behavior of the iron ion in solution and the potential reactions involved. The scope includes homework-related inquiries and considerations of chemical equilibria.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests considering the reaction between hydrated iron and sulfate, questioning whether its small extent is significant for pH calculations.
  • Another participant raises the concern that some Fe3+ may precipitate as Fe(OH)3, which could affect the pH, and notes ambiguity regarding whether the 0.20 M concentration refers to the initial or final concentration.
  • A later reply acknowledges the concern about precipitation but decides to ignore it, clarifying that the 0.20 M refers to the initial concentration of sulfate.
  • Another participant proposes focusing on the behavior of Fe3+ as a stronger acid compared to the sulfate anion, suggesting that sulfate's influence may be negligible.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the sulfate ion and the potential precipitation of iron hydroxide, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus on the approach to take for calculating pH.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the ambiguity in the problem statement regarding the concentration of sulfate and the potential for precipitation, which may affect the pH calculation. The discussion also highlights the lack of coverage on solubility products in their current studies.

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Homework Statement



Find the pH of 0.20 M Iron (III) sulfate.

Homework Equations



The metal ion becomes hydrated (water is a ligand) and forms iron hexahydrate.

The sulfate ion is a weak base.

The Attempt at a Solution



Now, in considering the pH of this solution, should I consider the below reaction even though it's small extent? This reaction consumes the acid, but the reaction extent is small!

Fe(OH_{2})_{6}^{3+} + SO_{4}^{2-} \leftrightharpoons HOSO_{2}^{-} + Fe(OH_{2})_{5}(OH)^{2+}

Or should I ignore that reaction and only consider the below reaction?

Fe(OH_{2})_{6}^{3+} + H_{2}O \leftrightharpoons H_{3}O^{+} + Fe(OH_{2})_{5}(OH)^{2+}
 
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Question is slightly ambiguous.

When you dissolve Fe3+ some of it will precipitate as Fe(OH)3, substantially lowering solution pH (check Ksp). Question doesn't say whether 0.20 M was the initial concentration of the sulfate, or is the final concentration after the precipitation. Not that the difference will be large.
 
Good idea. We haven't covered solubility products yet; that's the next chapter. I'll just ignore precipitation but that is a valid concern. The 0.2M is referring to initial concentration of sulfate.

However, is the first, small extent reaction worth considering?
 
I would ignore sulfate and concentrate on the Fe3+ behavior, as it is much stronger acid than the sulfate anion is a base.

Unfortunately, this is kind of a problem that is hard to answer without guessing what the teacher had on mind [PLAIN]http://www.bpp.com.pl/IMG/grumpy_borek.png.
 
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