Find Potential at Point P: Electric Potential

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric potential at a specific point P in a uniform electric field, given the electric field vector and the potential at the origin. Participants are exploring the relationship between electric field strength and electric potential.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using a diagram to visualize the electric field and equipotential lines. There is mention of setting up a line integral to compute potential differences. Some participants question the necessity of knowing the distance to the charge creating the electric field to determine potential changes.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes attempts to compute the potential using different methods, with some participants expressing confusion over the calculations. One participant realizes a misunderstanding regarding the dot product versus scalar multiplication in their calculations, leading to a corrected value that aligns with the textbook answer.

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There is a reference to the potential being zero at the origin and a specific coordinate for point P. Participants are navigating through the implications of uniform electric fields and the mathematical relationships involved in calculating electric potential.

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If [tex]\overrightarrow E = \left( {16\,{\rm{V/m}}} \right)\,{\rm{\hat i + }}\left( {{\rm{8}}{\rm{.5 V/m}}} \right){\rm{\hat j}}[/tex] and the potential is 0 at the origin, find the potential at point P with coordinates x=1.5 m, y=3.5 m.

I made a diagram. (each tick mark = 2 units). I imagine this is just a uniform electric field. The equipotential lines are perpendicular to the field lines. The two lines going up and to the right are field lines, and the two perpendicular lines are lines of equipotential. The one passing through the origin is 0V. The other one is passing through the point (1.5, 3.5), but I don't know its value. Don't I need to know how far away the charge is that is creating the Electric field in order to determine how potential will change with distance?
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You can set this up as a line integral (if you're doing calculus based physics). That is, pick your path ([itex]\vec{r}(t)=(1.5t,3.5t,0)[/itex] with [itex]0\le t\le1[/itex] would be a good one) and use

[tex]V_f-V_i=-\int \vec{E}\circ d\vec{r}[/tex].
 
I don't understand that.

I'm still stuck on this. All I can think to do is compute the magnitude of the electric field: sqrt(16^2 + 8.5^2), and the distance from point P to the origin: sqrt(1.5^2 + 3.5^2), and since V=Ed, multiply them together which gives me 70V. But the answer in the back of the book is -54V.
 
I got it! It's dot product of E*V, not regular old multiplication of |E|*|V| which is what I was doing. Now I get -54 like the back of the book.
 

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