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This discussion focuses on calculating the probabilities of outcomes when throwing a 6-sided die 5 times. The initial calculations for distinct outcomes (all different, doubles, trebles, quartets, and quintets) resulted in a total probability of 1527/1296. The user identified double counting issues and attempted to adjust for these by deducting probabilities of overlapping outcomes, ultimately arriving at 1317/1296. The resolution came from redefining the outcomes to include combinations of doubles and trebles, which correctly summed to 1 with the final probabilities being 120/1296 for all different, 600/1296 for doubles with different others, 200/1296 for trebles with different others, 25/1296 for quartets with one different, 1/1296 for quintets, 50/1296 for a double and a treble, and 300/1296 for two doubles and a single.

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For throwing a 6-sided die 5 times, i’m trying to summate the following (only) possible outcomes to make 1.
a) all throws are different
b) two throws are the same (a double)
c) three throws are the same (a treble)
d) four throws are the same (a quartet)
e) all five throws are the same (quintet).

So far i have worked out that:

a) (1/6)^5 . 6!/5!1! = 1/1296
b) 6 . (1/6)^2 . (5/6)^3 . 5!/3!2! = 1250/1296
c) 6 . (1/6)^3 . (5/6)^2 . 5!/2!3! = 250/1296
d) 6. (1/6)^4 . (5/6)^1 . 5!/4!1! = 25/1296
e) 6 . (1/6)^5 = 1/1296

I summated the above, expecting them to come to 1, but they come to 1527/1296

I then realized that i was double counting some of the outcomes because when a treble is thrown there is a chance a double is ALSO thrown and when a double is thrown there is a chance that a treble is thrown, so to deduct these i did

i) chance of throwing a double given that a treble is thrown AND not throwing a quintet=
5 . (1/6)^2 = 5/36 = 180/1296
ii) chance if throwing a treble given that a double is thrown AND not throwing a quintet=
5 . (1/6)^3 = 5/216 = 30/1296

1527/1296 - 180/1296 - 30/1296 = 1317/1296

Can anyone tell me why this still doesn't come to 1?
 
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Josefk said:
For throwing a 6-sided die 5 times, i’m trying to summate the following (only) possible outcomes to make 1.
a) all throws are different
b) two throws are the same (a double)
c) three throws are the same (a treble)
d) four throws are the same (a quartet)
e) all five throws are the same (quintet).

So far i have worked out that:

a) (1/6)^5 . 6!/5!1! = 1/1296
b) 6 . (1/6)^2 . (5/6)^3 . 5!/3!2! = 1250/1296
c) 6 . (1/6)^3 . (5/6)^2 . 5!/2!3! = 250/1296
d) 6. (1/6)^4 . (5/6)^1 . 5!/4!1! = 25/1296
e) 6 . (1/6)^5 = 1/1296

I summated the above, expecting them to come to 1, but they come to 1527/1296

I then realized that i was double counting some of the outcomes because when a treble is thrown there is a chance a double is ALSO thrown and when a double is thrown there is a chance that a treble is thrown, so to deduct these i did

i) chance of throwing a double given that a treble is thrown AND not throwing a quintet=
5 . (1/6)^2 = 5/36 = 180/1296
ii) chance if throwing a treble given that a double is thrown AND not throwing a quintet=
5 . (1/6)^3 = 5/216 = 30/1296

1527/1296 - 180/1296 - 30/1296 = 1317/1296

Can anyone tell me why this still doesn't come to 1?
I would use these possible outcomes:

a) all throws are different
b) two throws are the same (a double) and all the others are different
c) three throws are the same (a treble) and both the others are different
d) four throws are the same (a quartet) and the other one is different
e) all five throws are the same (quintet)
f) a double and a treble
g) two doubles and a single.

The probabilities are then

a) 120/1296
b) 600/1296
c) 200/1296
d) 25/1296
e) 1/1296
f) 50/1296
g) 300/1296.

Those add up to 1, as required.
 

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