Find Rydberg's Constant Using Graphical Method

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The discussion centers around determining Rydberg's constant using a graphical method specifically for the Balmer series of hydrogen, focusing on transitions from higher energy levels to the second energy level.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the Rydberg formula and the need to linearize the equation for graphical representation. Questions are raised about identifying appropriate variables for the axes of the graph and how to match wavelengths with quantum numbers.

Discussion Status

Some participants have made progress in understanding how to plot the data and relate it to the Rydberg constant, while others are still exploring the connections between the variables involved. Guidance has been offered regarding the linearization of the equation and the interpretation of the graph.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about the graphical method and the representation of variables, indicating a need for clarification on these points. There is an emphasis on using knowledge of the Balmer series to deduce necessary values.

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Homework Statement



Note: Questions is targeted at Balmer series only (ie, shell 6 --> 2 )

Given the Rydberg formula, 1/\lambda=R[1/(nf)2-1/(ni)2], describe a way of using a graphical method to determine the value of R.

Where nf=final shell (should always be 2 for Balmer series)
ni= initial shell (any shell from 6-->3)
\lambda=Wavelength
R=Rydberg's constant

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Umm, I gave it above.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure...I understand the formula, I've done questions relating on the use of the formula, I have a good knowledge of the Balmer Series (as in Shell 3 --> 2 is given H\alpha, then 4-2 beta, etc), I know the empirical value of Rydberg's constant, but sadly I am completely stumped on how to do this. I'm pretty sure that this is done using gradients, but do not know what represents the Y and X values on the graph. Help will be much appreciated.
 
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Hi sintered, welcome to PF.

The assumption here is that you have a bunch of wavelengths from the hydrogen emission spectrum. You also know the Rydberg formula, but you don't know the value of R.

Question 1: Can you match nf values with wavelengths?

Usually situations like this are approached by "linearizing" the equation, i.e. bringing the equation into the form

y = a x + b

and fitting a straight line through the data points. Look at the formula.

Question 2: Can you picture in your mind what could possibly y and x be?

Once you have that, it should be easy to see what a and b ought to be.
 
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Thanks for the welcome Kuru! I think I get it now =].

From the wavelengths provided the values of nf and ni can be deduced (probably from the provided info and knowledge of Balmer Series), and then if you let y=1/\lambda and x=1/(nf)2-1/(ni)2, then the value of X can be obtained and plotted on the X axis (?) with the corresponding value of the inverse wavelength on the Y axis (?). Rydberg's constant can then be obtained from the gradient.

I'm not sure if this is what you were hinting but its kind of making sense now. I won't ask you to provide everything in clarity, as this will be one of the topics in an upcoming assessment =D.
 
You are on the right track. Good luck with your upcoming assessment.
 

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