Find sound wavelength from a vibrating string

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The discussion revolves around determining the wavelength of a sound wave produced by a vibrating piano string in its fundamental mode. The problem provides specific parameters such as the string length, mass density, and tension, while also noting the speed of sound in air.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding the frequency of the vibrating string as a first step. There is a mention of using provided equations to relate tension, mass density, and wavelength. Some participants clarify the definitions of variables and equations involved, particularly regarding the distinction between spring constant and wavenumber.

Discussion Status

The discussion is progressing with participants offering guidance on how to approach finding the frequency and subsequently the wavelength. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify terms and relationships between the variables involved.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as presented, with specific values given for tension, length, and mass density. There is a focus on ensuring correct interpretations of the equations and variables used in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Sound Wavelength From String
During a concert a pianist hits a key that sets up a standing wave in a piano string that is vibrating in its fundamental mode. The string is 0.5 m long, has a mass density of 0.002 kg/m and is held under a tension of 120 N. What is the wavelength of the sound wave heard by the listener? The speed of sound in air is 343 m/s.
v (sound) = 343 m/s
L (length) = 0.5 m
d (mass density) = 0.002 kg/m
T (tension) = 120 N
λ (wavelength) = unknown

Homework Equations


v = f*λ = ω/k

f = frequency
k = spring constant
ω = angular frequency

v = √(T/(m/L))

T = force of tension
m = mass
L = length

The Attempt at a Solution


At first I attempted a solution using the second equation provided, however I am not quite sure what I would be solving for since the speed of sound in air is provided. Using the second equation I find the speed of the wave itself, but I am not sure how to apply the two speeds to finding the wavelength of the sound wave? Please help me with this problem!
 
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First find the frequency of vibration of the string.
 
The fundametnal frequency is f_1=\frac{1}{2L}\sqrt{\frac{T}{\mu}} They're giving you the info to find the frequency, they're giving you the velocity, so use that to find wavelength.
 
Just to add:
The frequency of vibration, f = \frac{v}{λ} = \frac{nv}{2L}. The allowed wavelengths are: λ = \frac{2L}{n}, where n is the mode of oscillation.

Note also, in your listing of equations, you write that v = \frac{ω}{k} and say that k is the spring constant. This is not the case here, instead it is defined as the wavenumber, where k = \frac{2π}{λ}. Substitution of this and ω = 2πf gives back v = fλ.
 
Wow! Thank you so much. That made a lot more sense to me than when I first attempted the problem. Thanks :)
 
Just to double check with you, the μ in this case is referring to the density given correct?
 
yes, μ is the linear mass density, kg/m, which is what you're given as "d" actually.
 

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