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The discussion revolves around two main questions related to geometry and vector analysis: finding the equation of a plane containing a specific line and determining the angle between two lines represented in symmetric form. The subject area includes vector mathematics and geometric interpretation.

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  • Participants explore how to interpret the given equations, particularly the meaning of a comma in the context of line equations and the implications of a constant z value. There are attempts to clarify the reduction of equations to symmetric form and the identification of direction vectors for the lines in question.

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Some participants have provided insights into the interpretation of the equations and the process of finding direction vectors. There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between the lines and the necessary steps to find the angle between them, with no explicit consensus reached on the final approach.

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Participants question the assumptions regarding the representation of lines and planes, particularly the implications of treating z as a constant and the interpretation of the equations provided. There is a noted emphasis on understanding the geometric context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


I have 2 doubts-

1)The equation of the plane containing the line 2x+z-4=0=2y+z and passing through the point (2,1,-1) is?

2)Find the angle between the lines
(x-2)/3 = (y+1)/-2, z=2 and
(x-1)/1 = (2y+3)/3 = (z+5)/2

The Attempt at a Solution



1)How do I interpret the given equation of the line?
How to reduce it to symmetric form?
Is it 2x-4 = 2y = 0? (z cancels out)

2) In the first equation, there is a 'comma' between (x-2)/3 = (y+1)/-2 and z=2. What does it mean?
Moreover, z=2 is a plane not a line.
So do we have to find the angle between (x-2)/3 = (y+1)/-2 = z/1 and (x-1)/1 = (2y+3)/3 = (z+5)/2?
 
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To find the angle between 2 vectors you use the dot product.
 


Abdul Quadeer said:

Homework Statement


I have 2 doubts-

1)The equation of the plane containing the line 2x+z-4=0=2y+z and passing through the point (2,1,-1) is?

2)Find the angle between the lines
(x-2)/3 = (y+1)/-2, z=2 and
(x-1)/1 = (2y+3)/3 = (z+5)/2

The Attempt at a Solution



1)How do I interpret the given equation of the line?
How to reduce it to symmetric form?
Is it 2x-4 = 2y = 0? (z cancels out)
You cannot just cancel z in two of the equations. "Canceling z" here really means "subtract z from both sides" but since there are three "sides" that would give
2x- 4= 2y= -z. You really only need two points on that line: if You take z= 0, then 2y= 0 gives y= 0 and 2x- 4= 0 gives x= 2. (2, 0, 0) is a point on the line. If you take z= 2, then 2y= -2 gives y= -1 and 2x- 4= -2 gives 2x= 2 or x= 1. (1, -1, 2) is another point on the line.
Can you find the plane containing the three points (2, 0, 0), (1, -1, 2), and (2, 1, -1)?

2) In the first equation, there is a 'comma' between (x-2)/3 = (y+1)/-2 and z=2. What does it mean?
Moreover, z=2 is a plane not a line.
No, but the set of all points, (x, y, z), satisfying (x- 2)/3= (y+ 1)/(-2) and z= 2 is a line. Setting "t" equal to the common value of (x- 2)/3 and (y+ 1)/(-2), we have x= 3t+ 2 and y= -2t- 1. z= 2= 2+ 0t for all t. That gives as a vector pointing in the direction of the line [itex]\vec{u}= 3\vec{i}- 2\vec{j}+ 0\vec{k}[/itex].

If you set each part of (x-1)/1 = (2y+3)/3 = (z+5)/2 equal to the parameter s, you get x= s+ 1, 2y= 3s- 3 so y= (3/2)s- 1, and z= 2s+ 5. That has direction vector [itex]\vec{v}= \vec{i}+ (3/2)\vec{j}+ 2\vec{k}[/itex].

In general, if the "symmetric" equations are [itex]\frac{x- a}{A}= \frac{y- b}{B}= \frac{z- c}{C}[/itex], then a direction vector is [itex]A\vec{i}+ B\vec{j}+ C\vec{k}[/itex]. If one of x, y, or z is given as a constant, that is the same as the denominator being 0.

So do we have to find the angle between (x-2)/3 = (y+1)/-2 = z/1
No, there is no "z/1", it would be better to think of it as "z/0" which, of course, does not exist- that's why z was not written that way.
and (x-1)/1 = (2y+3)/3 = (z+5)/2?
Of course, after you have the direction vectors, [itex]\vec{u}[/itex] and [itex]\vec{v}[/itex], you can find the angle between them from [itex]\vec{u}\cdot\vec{v}= ||\vec{u}||||\vec{v}|| cos(\theta)[/itex].
 


thanks!
 

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