Find the area enclosed by the curve (parametric equation)

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The discussion focuses on finding the area enclosed by the parametric equations x = t² - 2t and y = t^(1/2) around the y-axis. The user initially struggles with determining the correct bounds for integration and encounters a negative area, suggesting a potential error in their setup. It is clarified that the integration should be performed using the formula A = ∫ x dy, rather than integrating xy. The user realizes the mistake in their integration approach and acknowledges the correction, leading to a better understanding of the problem. The conversation concludes with gratitude for the clarification provided.
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Homework Statement



I don't really have a problem with integration here, I just need to learn how to decide what direction the integration should be in

find the area enclosed by the curve x = t2 - 2t y = t1/2 around the y axis

Homework Equations



A = ∫ xdy

The Attempt at a Solution



so when i plug values into the parametric equations i find that this graph comes out of the origin at y = 0 then crosses the axis again at 21/2

I feel like my bound of integration should be from 0 to 21/2, but I get a negative area, so I probably should reverse the bounds, but I can't rationalize the reversal.

A = from 0 to 21/2 ∫ (t2 - 2t)t1/2 dt

= from 0 to 21/2 ( 4/5 *t5/2 - 4/3 * t3/2)

here i get 1.86 - 2.2, which is negative
 
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Have you looked at the graph?
 
sure it looks like this approx
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starting at t=0 there the curve is at the origin, and at point t = 2 the graph it at the point 0,21/2

so the bounds i used seemed right
 
the area should be negative; it is 'below' the y-axis.

there is one mistake that i can see. if y = t^(1/2), then dy = (1/2)*t^(-1/2) dt. you seem to have integrated xy instead of xdy.
 
eczeno said:
the area should be negative; it is 'below' the y-axis.

there is one mistake that i can see. if y = t^(1/2), then
dy = (1/2)*t^(-1/2) dt. you seem to have integrated xy instead of xdy.

that clears everything up thank you,
 
cheers
 
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