Find the area enclosed by the curve (parametric equation)

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The discussion revolves around finding the area enclosed by a curve defined by parametric equations, specifically x = t² - 2t and y = t^(1/2), with respect to the y-axis. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the direction of integration and the bounds to use for calculating the area.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to determine the correct bounds for integration and questions whether reversing the bounds would yield a positive area. They also express confusion about the negative area obtained from their calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested checking the graph of the curve to better understand the area being calculated. There is acknowledgment of a potential mistake in the integration process, specifically regarding the integration of xy instead of xdy. The conversation indicates a productive exploration of the problem, though no consensus on a solution has been reached.

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The original poster notes that the area calculated appears negative, which they attribute to the curve being 'below' the y-axis. There is also a mention of the bounds of integration being from 0 to 21/2, which is under discussion.

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Homework Statement



I don't really have a problem with integration here, I just need to learn how to decide what direction the integration should be in

find the area enclosed by the curve x = t2 - 2t y = t1/2 around the y axis

Homework Equations



A = ∫ xdy

The Attempt at a Solution



so when i plug values into the parametric equations i find that this graph comes out of the origin at y = 0 then crosses the axis again at 21/2

I feel like my bound of integration should be from 0 to 21/2, but I get a negative area, so I probably should reverse the bounds, but I can't rationalize the reversal.

A = from 0 to 21/2 ∫ (t2 - 2t)t1/2 dt

= from 0 to 21/2 ( 4/5 *t5/2 - 4/3 * t3/2)

here i get 1.86 - 2.2, which is negative
 
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Have you looked at the graph?
 
sure it looks like this approx
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starting at t=0 there the curve is at the origin, and at point t = 2 the graph it at the point 0,21/2

so the bounds i used seemed right
 
the area should be negative; it is 'below' the y-axis.

there is one mistake that i can see. if y = t^(1/2), then dy = (1/2)*t^(-1/2) dt. you seem to have integrated xy instead of xdy.
 
eczeno said:
the area should be negative; it is 'below' the y-axis.

there is one mistake that i can see. if y = t^(1/2), then
dy = (1/2)*t^(-1/2) dt. you seem to have integrated xy instead of xdy.

that clears everything up thank you,
 
cheers
 

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