Find the Best First Year Physics Textbook - Calculus Included!

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a suitable first-year college physics textbook that incorporates calculus, specifically for AP Physics C, covering topics such as mechanics, electricity, magnetism, and modern physics. Participants share their experiences and recommendations regarding textbooks that emphasize derivations over memorization.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty with memorizing formulas in physics and seeks a rigorous textbook that includes derivations.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of memorizing formulas at the college level, sharing their experience of not needing to memorize until later in their studies.
  • Suggestions for textbooks include Kleppner's Mechanics and Purcell for electricity and magnetism, with a note that Griffiths is more suitable for upper-level courses.
  • A participant inquires if the suggested textbooks will adequately prepare them for the AP Physics C exam.
  • There is a clarification that AP Physics C consists of two tests: Mechanics and Electricity and Magnetism.
  • Halliday and Resnick is recommended as a standard calculus-based physics textbook, with a suggestion to use an earlier edition for the AP exam preparation.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the differences between two similar textbooks they found online.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have differing views on the necessity of memorizing formulas at the college level, and there is no consensus on the best textbook, as multiple recommendations are provided without agreement on a single choice.

Contextual Notes

Participants' recommendations depend on their individual experiences and may not reflect a universal standard for textbook selection. The discussion does not resolve the differences in opinion regarding the necessity of memorization or the best textbook for AP Physics C.

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I've always had problems with learning physics. It's not that I don't like it or can't do the calculations, but rather the memorization of thousands of equations that can easily derived. Of course, memorizing the important ones are necessary, so we don't have to constantly rederive them. So, my question is: What is a rigorous first year college (AP Physics C) leveled physics text WITH the use of calculus?
With mechanics, electricity, magnetism, modern physics.


Thanks.
 
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I didn't know colleges required students to memorize formulas at that level. I don't recall having to memorize formulas at all until my junior year in physics degree. Maybe I was at a crappy college. Or are you talking about the AP physics C test?

As for books, I can definitely say Kleppner's Mechanics is wonderful. Purcell is good for E&M if you have had some E&M before. I don't know of a dedicated modern physics text at that level with calculus.
 
I'm just talking about my school's physics program. It's all memorization. We're given a bunch of fornulas and told to memorize them. I'd just like to have an actual book(s) that give the reader how the result is derived. Regardless, I will be taking the AP Physics C exam, so I would like to be prepared too.

Thanks for those suggestions. If Kleppner is as good as you say, I'll definitely getting them!

www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0070350485/ref=aw_d_cr_books

www.amazon.com/gp/aw/cr/1107013607/ref=aw_d_cr_books

Those are the ones (with calculus) right?
 
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Also, is Grffiths any good for electricity and magnetism?
 
Griffiths is for upper-level E&M. If you want rigorous first-year-level stuff, get Purcell.
 
Ok. All of this will also prepare me for the AP exam?
 
Isn't AP physics C purely mechanics? Either way, the standard calculus based physics textbook is Halliday and Resnick Fundamentals of Physics. Get yourself a previous edition like the 6th and that'll cover everything you need for the AP test and includes EM
 
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Sure looks like it. It's probably the best calculus physics book out there, but I mean physics is physics so any book will do as long as there aren't any glaring deficiencies.
 
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Alright, thanks.
 

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