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The curvature of a parametric curve defined as \(\alpha(t) = (x(t), y(t))\) is calculated using the formula \(k = \frac{x'y'' - y'x''}{|\alpha'|^{3}}\). The discussion emphasizes the importance of differentiating the curve in parametric form and finding the unit tangent vector, which is \((x', y')/\sqrt{x'^2 + y'^2}\). The norm of the derivative of this unit tangent vector provides the curvature. The participants confirm that the initial expression for curvature is correct but may require manipulation to match standard forms.

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Homework Statement



Given a parametric curve, \alpha(t) = (x(t),y(t) ), not necessarily arc length parameterized show that the curvature is given by:

k = \frac{x'y'' - y'x''}{|\alpha'|^{3}}

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As I understand this the curvature is defined from the point of view of a arc length parameterization as
k = |\frac{d^{2}\alpha(s)}{ds^{2}}|

So I tried using the chain rule...

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\frac{d\alpha}{ds} = \frac{d\alpha}{dt}\frac{dt}{ds}where dt/ds = 1/(ds/dt) = 1/|\frac{d\alpha}{dt}(t)|
Then I differentiated again to get...
\frac{d}{ds} \frac{d\alpha}{dt}\frac{1}{|\frac{d\alpha}{dt}(t)|} = \frac{d}{dt}\frac{dt}{ds} \frac{d\alpha}{dt}\frac{1}{|\frac{d\alpha}{dt}(t)|}=\frac{d^{2}\alpha}{dt^{2}}\frac{1}{|\frac{d\alpha}{dt}(t)|^{2}}}-\frac{d\alpha}{dt}\frac{\alpha'\cdot\alpha''}{|\frac{d\alpha}{dt}(t)|^{4}}

This isn't what I should get. It seems that I am clearly missing something since all the problems I try and do along these lines I am stuck on. Does anyone have any insight on this?

Thanks in advanced
 
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Don't you think you ought to start by representing the curve in parametric form (x(t),y(t))? Now start differentiating that. The unit tangent is (x',y')/sqrt(x'^2+y'^2). The curvature is the norm of the derivative of that.
 


Dick said:
Don't you think you ought to start by representing the curve in parametric form (x(t),y(t))? Now start differentiating that. The unit tangent is (x',y')/sqrt(x'^2+y'^2). The curvature is the norm of the derivative of that.

Thanks for the advice. The expression turned out to be right I just needed to do a little foot work to get it in the same form : )

I am curious to know, however, if you had a more elegant way in mind?
 


whynothis said:
Thanks for the advice. The expression turned out to be right I just needed to do a little foot work to get it in the same form : )

I am curious to know, however, if you had a more elegant way in mind?

Nah. Just differentiate, cancel some terms and collect stuff.
 

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