Find the equation of the tangent in the given problem

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of the tangent line to a curve, involving differentiation and the properties of tangent lines intersecting the axes. The subject area includes calculus and analytical geometry.

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  • Participants discuss the differentiation of the function to find the slope of the tangent line and the subsequent equation. There are attempts to derive the coordinates where the tangent intersects the axes, and some participants raise questions about the validity of certain values of 'a' and the implications of those values on the tangent's coordinates.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and alternative methods for approaching the problem. There is recognition of multiple interpretations regarding the values of 'a' and their suitability for the tangent line's intersection points.

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Participants note the conditions required for the tangent line to intersect the axes, which influences the values of 'a' and 'b' being considered. There is a mention of treating negative values of 'a' as unsuitable based on the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
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The textbook solution is indicated below;

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My approach on this question is as follows;

##\dfrac{dy}{dx} = -\dfrac {8}{x^3}##

##\dfrac{dy}{dx} (x=a) = -\dfrac {8}{a^3}##

The tangent equation is given by;

##y= -\dfrac {8}{a^3}x+\dfrac{12+a^2}{a^2}##

when ##x=0##,

##y=\dfrac{12+a^2}{a^2}##

and when ##y=0##,

##\dfrac {8}{a^3} x = \dfrac{12+a^2}{a^2}##

##⇒\dfrac {8}{a^2}=y##

##⇒\dfrac {8}{a^2}=\dfrac{4}{a^2} +1##

##8=4+a^2##

##4=a^2##

##a=\sqrt{4}=2##

on using; ##y=\dfrac{12+a^2}{a^2}## and substituting ##a=2## yields

##y=\dfrac{12+2^2}{2^2}=\dfrac{16}{4}=4##

##b=4##.

I would appreciate any other method or insight. Cheers guys!
 
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What happened to ##a=-2## at ##y=0##?

I think your method is fine, no need to make things more complicated.
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: See attached
Relevant Equations:: Differentiation

View attachment 316098The textbook solution is indicated below;

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My approach on this question is as follows;

##\dfrac{dy}{dx} = -\dfrac {8}{x^3}##

##\dfrac{dy}{dx} (x=a) = -\dfrac {8}{a^3}##

The tangent equation is given by;

##y= -\dfrac {8}{a^3}x+\dfrac{12+a^2}{a^2}##

when ##x=0##,

##y=\dfrac{12+a^2}{a^2}##

and when ##y=0##,

##\dfrac {8}{a^3} x = \dfrac{12+a^2}{a^2}##

##⇒\dfrac {8}{a^2}=y##

##⇒\dfrac {8}{a^2}=\dfrac{4}{a^2} +1##

##8=4+a^2##

##4=a^2##

##a=\sqrt{4}=2##

on using; ##y=\dfrac{12+a^2}{a^2}## and substituting ##a=2## yields

##y=\dfrac{12+2^2}{2^2}=\dfrac{16}{4}=4##

##b=4##.

I would appreciate any other method or insight. Cheers guys!
My only thought is that, once you get the slope, the line that passes through the point (0, b) is ##(y - b) = m(x - 0 )##, and the line through (b, 0) is ##(y - 0) = m(x - b)##. You can solve those simultaneously. However I don't think that approach gets you anything that much simpler.

-Dan
 
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fresh_42 said:
What happened to ##a=-2## at ##y=0##?

I think your method is fine, no need to make things more complicated.
You are right; ##a=±2##, We shall treat ##a=-2## as unsuitable as it will not realize the required co-ordinates at the ##x## axes, that is ##(b,0)## and ##y## axes, that is ##(0,b)##.
 
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The conditions on the tangent line intersecting the axes require that its equation be <br /> f(a) + f&#039;(a)(x - a) = \frac{12}{a^2} + 1 - \frac{8}{a^3}x = y = b - x. Comparing powers of x gives <br /> \begin{split}<br /> \frac{12}{a^2} + 1 &amp;= b \\<br /> \frac{8}{a^3} &amp;= 1.\end{split} These are easily solved to find a = 2 and b = 4.
 
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