Find the equilibrium solution and eigenvalues and eigenvectors of system?

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The discussion revolves around finding the equilibrium solution and determining the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of a given system of differential equations. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanation related to linear algebra and dynamical systems.

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  • One participant seeks help in finding the equilibrium solution and eigenvalues/eigenvectors for the system defined by the equations x' = -x - 4y - 4 and y' = x - y - 6.
  • Another participant requests the original poster to share their attempts and where they are stuck to provide better assistance.
  • A participant calculates the critical point as (4, -2) by setting x' and y' to zero and solving the resulting equations.
  • The same participant expresses confusion about the transition to matrix form and the subsequent steps to find eigenvalues, specifically mentioning the determinant equation det(A - λI) = λ^2 + 2λ + 5.
  • Another participant confirms that the original poster's work is correct up to that point.
  • One participant suggests a different approach by changing variables to x_1 = x - 4 and x_2 = y + 2, leading to a new system of equations and a matrix for which eigenvalues need to be determined.

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There is no explicit consensus on the methods or solutions presented, as participants are exploring different approaches and expressing confusion about specific steps.

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The discussion includes unresolved steps in the mathematical process, particularly regarding the calculation of eigenvalues and the implications of variable changes. There are also dependencies on the definitions of critical points and matrix representations.

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Hey guys, I need to find the equilibrium solution (critical point) for the given system. Also I need to take the homogeneous equation x' = Ax (matrix notation) and find the eigenvalues and eigenvectors.

system: x' = -x - 4y - 4
y' = x - y - 6


Can you help?

Thanks
 
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Hi Norm! :smile:

Show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help! :wink:

(start with the eigenvalues and eigenvectors)
 
Okay so, the critical points are when x' and y' equal zero I believe, so adding the two equations gets -5y - 10 = 0 => y = -2, x = 4. So the critical point is (x,y) = (4,-2).

Now for writing the homogeneous equation in matrix form, by using change of variables:

x_1 = x
x_2 = y
x_2 = y'

Gives equations:

(x_1)' = -x_1 - 4x_2 - 4
(x_2)' = x_1 - x_2 - 6

And that gives the matrix form x' = Ax + b, which would be (follow link)
http://i39.tinypic.com/35858ye.png

but we want the homogeneous, so we have x' = Ax, which would be (follow link)
http://i41.tinypic.com/53r0hi.png

Now to find eigenvalues, det(A - λI) = λ^2 + 2λ + 5.

This is where I'm confused so far. I can do the quadratic but we haven't had to do quadratic equation yet so I want to make sure i have everything correct so far?

Thanks
 
Hi Norm850! :smile:

(just got up :zzz:)
Norm850 said:
… I want to make sure i have everything correct so far?

Fine so far. :smile:
 
You will get a homogeneous set of equations if you let x_1= x- 4 and x_2= y+ 2. Of course, x_1'= x' and x_2'= y' and x= x_1+ 4, y= x_2- 2. Putting those into the equation.

x_1'= -(x_1+ 4)-4(x_2- 2)- 4= -x_1- 4x_2
x_2'= (x_1+ 4)- (x_2- 2)- 6= x_1- x_2

Determine the eigenvalues of
\begin{bmatrix}-1 & 4 \\ 1 & -1\end{bmatrix}
 

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