Find the induced electromotive force (epsilon)

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The discussion revolves around finding the induced electromotive force (EMF) in a scenario involving a slider moving along a contour at an angle of 37 degrees. The problem includes parameters such as the speed of the slider and the dimensions of the contour, but lacks clarity in its description and setup.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants raise concerns about the vagueness of the problem description and the clarity of the provided images. There are questions regarding the specific geometry of the setup, particularly how the angle relates to the slider's motion. Some participants suggest that the rate of change of the area of the closed loop will affect the EMF over time, prompting inquiries about specific instances for calculating the EMF.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the clarity of the original post and suggesting that a more detailed problem description is necessary. There are attempts to explore the relationship between the dimensions of the triangle formed by the slider and the EMF, indicating a productive direction in the exploration of the problem.

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There are indications that the original poster may have constraints related to homework rules, such as needing to present a clear and thorough problem description. The discussion also highlights potential confusion regarding the physical setup and the implications of the slider's motion on the EMF calculation.

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it is something like this but instead of the rectalve contour iswith the angle 37 degree!https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/114624 1. Homework Statement

the speed of the slide is 0.16 m/s
the length of the slide is 0.14 m
the angle of the contour is 37 degree

Homework Equations


inducted electromotoric force=-delta phi/delta time
phi=induction(B)*surface*cos alpha (alpha=0 degree)[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxmarOZtFg5FdEJDWkNaRnVZX00/view?usp=sharing [/B]
 
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1. Your problem description is too vague. "something like this" is not good enough. There's no way to know what your 37° angle pertains to.

2. Your image of your attempt at solution is all but illegible (too dark, out of focus). If necessary, type in your solution and only provide images for diagrams.
 
gneill said:
1. Your problem description is too vague. "something like this" is not good enough. There's no way to know what your 37° angle pertains to.

2. Your image of your attempt at solution is all but illegible (too dark, out of focus). If necessary, type in your solution and only provide images for diagrams.
gneill said:
1. Your problem description is too vague. "something like this" is not good enough. There's no way to know what your 37° angle pertains to.

2. Your image of your attempt at solution is all but illegible (too dark, out of focus). If necessary, type in your solution and only provide images for diagrams.
 

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It looks like the slider will lose contact with the two arms of the contour immediately after it passes the points AC. Is that intended?

Since the rate of change of the area of the closed loop will change with time, the EMF will change with time, too. Is there a particular instant in time or position of the slider for which you need to find the EMF?

You need to take your time to thoroughly prepare your problem description so that others can quickly and easily understand the details.
 
The slider will continue to to slide (mayby it can stretch?? I don't know ,but I am pretty sure that's not the case here) we have explained before in class what happens in a rectangle contour (the surface becomes l*dt*v and dt is being simplyfied with dt down and epsilon becomes -Blv) this is the exact thibg but ibstead of the S=l*dt*v it is more complicated because we should find the surface of the triangle above (right triangle with 37degree abgle ) this surface + the surface of yhe rectanglr should give a surface which has an dt inside (this dt sbould the be simplified with the dt down and should give the answer but this is fifficult to get a firmula with only one dt (this is mostly a trigonometric exercisr) si pls help because I am really stuck (my teacher gave it only to me this exc. Causev I am the best in my class and i can't let her down)
 
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It looks like you want to find the EMF at the specific instant that the line AC is 14 cm in length. Suppose that at that instant that the two legs of the right angle triangle are x and y, with y being coincident with the line AC. How might you solve for x given the angle and value for y?

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Then, what's the area of the triangle in terms of x?
 

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