Find the launch speed of a ball in a spring mechanism

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The discussion revolves around finding the launch speed of a ball released by a spring mechanism. The problem involves a ball with a specified mass and two springs with a defined force constant, which are pulled back a certain distance. Participants are exploring the application of different physics principles, including kinematics and energy conservation.

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  • Participants discuss using force equations and kinematic equations (SUVAT) to determine acceleration and velocity. There is a comparison between using conservation of energy and kinematic equations to arrive at different answers. Questions arise about the validity of using constant acceleration assumptions in this context.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning the appropriateness of their methods and assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of acceleration in spring mechanisms, highlighting that it is not constant throughout the launch interval. There is an acknowledgment of differing answers based on the methods used.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of using different approaches, particularly the distinction between constant and variable acceleration in the context of spring dynamics. The original poster expresses confusion over the discrepancies in answers derived from different methods.

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Homework Statement


I have a question asking me to find the launch speed of a ball (mass 0.39kg) when released by a spring mechanism made of 2 springs each with force constant 25Nm^-2. they are pulled back 12 cm. the ball is initially at rest.

Homework Equations

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v^2=u^2+2as
f=ma
f=kx
E=1/2kx^2
E=1/2mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I used f=kx=ma to find the acceleration and then v^2=u^2+2as to find v however I got a different answer (1.92) as the mark scheme which used conservation of energy, elastic potential energy (1/2kx^2)=kinetic energy (1/2mv^2). The answer they got was 1.4Shouldn't I have got the same answer and if not what am I doing wrong and why is it wrong to use SUVAT in this situation?
 
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Hello Izwx, :welcome:
Izwx2000 said:
I used f=kx=ma
What did you take for a ?
Or, equivalently: what for x ?
 
Izwx2000 said:
why is it wrong to use SUVAT in this situation?
SUVAT is only for constant acceleration. As the spring expands the force it applies diminishes, so the acceleration drops.
 
BvU said:
Hello Izwx, :welcome:
What did you take for a ?
Or, equivalently: what for x ?
I got 15.38 ms^-2
 
And is that valid for the whole launching interval ?
 
haruspex said:
SUVAT is only for constant acceleration. As the spring expands the force it applies diminishes, so the acceleration drops.
oh I see thank you
 
BvU said:
And is that valid for the whole launching interval ?
I think that's what someone else was getting at that it wasn't constant acceleration so you can't use Suvat
 
Same way spring energy is 1/2 kx2 and not kx2

(your answer is a factor of ##\sqrt 2## higher than the correct book answer)
 
BvU said:
Same way spring energy is 1/2 kx2 and not kx2

(your answer is a factor of ##\sqrt 2## higher than the correct book answer)
ah yes that makes a lot of sense thanks a lot
 

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