Find the limit as x goes to infinity

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The discussion revolves around finding the limit of a function as x approaches infinity, specifically addressing the application of L'Hospital's Rule and the evaluation of expressions that may lead to indeterminate forms. Participants explore different methods and reasoning for determining the limit.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their application of L'Hospital's Rule and simplification of infinities, seeking alternative approaches.
  • Another participant claims that the limit has the form $0^{\infty}$ and asserts that it is simply 0, although this is met with a request for clarification.
  • A participant explains their reasoning for the limit being 0 by analyzing the degrees of the numerator and denominator, suggesting that as x approaches infinity, the expression approaches 0.
  • There is a reiteration of the method of dividing by the highest power of x to simplify rational expressions, with participants discussing its applicability to all rational functions.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the limit and the methods to evaluate it. Some assert that the limit is straightforwardly 0, while others are exploring the implications of using L'Hospital's Rule and the treatment of indeterminate forms. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.

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Participants have not reached a consensus on the correct approach to the limit, and there are varying interpretations of the form of the limit and the application of simplification techniques. The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of rational functions as x approaches infinity.

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This discussion may be useful for students and individuals interested in calculus, particularly those grappling with limits, L'Hospital's Rule, and the evaluation of rational functions as x approaches infinity.

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View attachment 6188Hi, I am having trouble with these kind of questions where we have to use L'Hospital's Rule. I took the ln of the function to get the x out of the exponent, and then followed the Rule by taking the derivative of the top and bottom (using a shortcut we learned: lim x --> infty f(x)g(x) = lim x --> infty f(x) / lim x --> infty g(x).

I got to this point after taking the limits: (infinity) x (- infinity) / (infinity) = 0

where e^(- infinity) = 0 which is the answer.

However, I don't feel confident about the way I simplified those infinities, it doesn't seem right to me. I don't think I have a good understanding of how to deal with those infinites..

Can someone try this question out, and see if you had the same intuition, or is there a different approach I should be taking?
 

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This limit has the form $0^{\infty}$, and as such is not an indeterminate form, and is simply 0. :D
 
MarkFL said:
This limit has the form $0^{\infty}$, and as such is not an indeterminate form, and is simply 0. :D

Hmm.. can you explain how you found the limit to be 0 inside of the bracket please?
 
Umar said:
Hmm.. can you explain how you found the limit to be 0 inside of the bracket please?

You have inside the brackets:

$$\frac{3x}{1+2x^2}$$

One could simply observe that the degree in the denominator is greater than that of the numerator, and so as $x\to\infty$, this expression goes to 0. This was what I did. Or you can rewrite the expression by dividing both numerator and denominator by $x^2$ to obtain:

$$\frac{\dfrac{3}{x}}{\dfrac{1}{x^2}+2}$$

And we see that as $x\to\infty$, this expressions becomes:

$$\frac{0}{0+2}=0$$
 
MarkFL said:
You have inside the brackets:

$$\frac{3x}{1+2x^2}$$

One could simply observe that the degree in the denominator is greater than that of the numerator, and so as $x\to\infty$, this expression goes to 0. This was what I did. Or you can rewrite the expression by dividing both numerator and denominator by $x^2$ to obtain:

$$\frac{\dfrac{3}{x}}{\dfrac{1}{x^2}+2}$$

And we see that as $x\to\infty$, this expressions becomes:

$$\frac{0}{0+2}=0$$

Oh wow! I didn't even think of it as simply a rational at first. Can you use that method of dividing all terms by the highest power of x for all rationals?
 
Umar said:
Oh wow! I didn't even think of it as simply a rational at first. Can you use that method of dividing all terms by the highest power of x for all rationals?

I don't see why not, for limits as $x\to\pm\infty$. :D
 

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