Find the points where electric potential is zero?

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The discussion revolves around finding points where the electric potential is zero in a system with two charges, specifically a 2 C charge and a 3 C charge positioned 100 cm apart. The original poster attempts to analyze potential locations for zero electric potential based on the configuration of these charges.

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  • Participants explore potential locations for zero electric potential, including points between the charges and points outside their configuration. Some participants question the feasibility of certain calculated positions, while others suggest that the nature of the charges may lead to a lack of solutions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants provide insights into the behavior of electric potential based on the signs of the charges, while others raise questions about the original problem's intent, such as whether it might be asking for the electric field instead.

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There is a mention of the need to consider the signs of the charges when determining potential, as well as the possibility of different configurations leading to different outcomes. The original poster's attempts to find solutions are noted, but there is no consensus on the existence of a solution for the initial charge configuration.

Hardik Batra
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There are two charges 2 C and 3 C and 100 cm apart from each other.
Find a point where electric potential is zero? Consider 2 C charge on the origin.I have tried out but don't get it solution...
1) If you take point between two charges then

2 C----------100 cm------------------3 C
<------x-------><-----(100-x)-------->

then you will get x= -200 cm that is not possible?2) If you take point left side of the 2 C then

x= -40 cm that is not possible?

3) If you take point right side of the 3 C then

x = -60 cm that is also not possible?
 
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Hardik Batra said:
There are two charges 2 C and 3 C and 100 cm apart from each other.
Find a point where electric potential is zero? Consider 2 C charge on the origin.

I have tried out but don't get it solution...
That is because there is no solution. Potential at a point can be defined as the work needed to bring a unit charge from infinity to that point. As long as the 2C and 3C charges both have the same sign, the path from infinity to any finite point will be uphill against a non-zero electrical force all (or most) of the way.

So all finite points will have positive potential.

A more rigorous way to see it is that the potential field from the 2C charge is clearly positive everywhere. And the potential field from the 3C charge is also clearly positive everywhere. The combined field from both is just the sum. It must also be positive everywhere.
 
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jbriggs444 said:
A more rigorous way to see it is that the potential field from the 2C charge is clearly positive everywhere. And the potential field from the 3C charge is also clearly positive everywhere. The combined field from both is just the sum. It must also be positive everywhere.

Suppose there are 3C and -2C charges then combined charge is 1C. this is positive charge then also you get the zero potential position.
 
Hardik Batra said:
Suppose there are 3C and -2C charges then combined charge is 1C. this is positive charge then also you get the zero potential position.

The equations that you solved the first time around need to take account of the sign of the two charges. In this version of the problem (with opposite signs on the two charges) the potential gets very large and positive near the 3C charge and verly large and negative near the -2C charge. It follows that there must a zero between them.

There should be another solution that is not between the two charges.
 
Hardik Batra said:
There are two charges 2 C and 3 C and 100 cm apart from each other.
Find a point where electric potential is zero?

Are you sure the question didn't ask that you find where the electric field is zero?
 

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