Find the probability of a particle in the left half of an Infinite Square well

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of finding a particle in the left half of an infinite square well, specifically focusing on the wavefunctions and their properties. The subject area includes quantum mechanics and wavefunction analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to use the definition of stationary states and considers integrating the probability density over a specified range. They also explore the possibility of using Dirac notation for a potentially simpler approach. Questions are raised about the correct application of hints provided and the interpretation of the wavefunctions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the setup and the application of hints. Some guidance has been offered regarding the symmetry of wavefunctions and the setup of integrals, though there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the boundaries of the infinite square well, specifically the location of the second wall. The discussion also notes a potential typographical error in the hint provided.

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At t = 0, a particle of mass m in an infinite square well with walls at
x = 0, x=a, is in a superposition of the (normalized) first and third stationary states
##\Psi(x,0)=A(2\psi_1(x)-i\psi_3(x))##
(a) What must A be in order for Ψ to be a normalized wavefunction?
##A=1/\sqrt5##
(b) What is the probability that the particle is in the left half of the box
(i.e.,between x = 0 and x = a/2) at t = 0?
Hint: Instead of trying to do a complicated integral directly, notice that for odd n,##\psi_n(x)=\psi_n(a-x)~\text{for}~0\leq x\leq a~\text{ You can use this to relate} \int_0^{{a/2}} \psi^*_m\psi_n\, dx~to\int_0^{{a}} \psi^*_m\psi_n\, dx~\text{when m, n are both odd.}##

Question 1: Is it possible to do this in a simpler way? Perhaps using dirac notation?
Question 2: How do I use the hint
Relevant Equations
Stationary state of an infinite square well
##\psi_n(x)=\sqrt{\frac {2} {a}} ~~ sin(\frac {n\pi x} {a})##
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Attempt: I'm sure I know how to do this the long way using the definition of stationary states(##\psi_n(x)=\sqrt{\frac {2} {a}} ~~ sin(\frac {n\pi x} {a})## and ##\int_0^{{a/2}} {\frac {2} {a}}(1/5)\left[~ \left(2sin(\frac {\pi x} {a})+i~ sin(\frac {3\pi x} {a})\right)\left( 2sin(\frac {\pi x} {a})-i ~sin(\frac {3\pi x} {a})\right)\right]dx ## then combining and using trig identities then integrate

But
Assuming my A is correct, I actually have 2 questions about part (b). One is about how to use the hint, the other if it is possible to find this using another method
Question 1: Is it possible to do this in a simpler way? Perhaps using dirac notation?
I tried ##1/5\langle \Psi|(2\psi_1-i\psi_3)|\Psi\rangle##
If this is possible and the correct set up, how do I continue? Do I try to separate them? We just learned this week, so I am still pretty confused about it
If not possible to use, why?
Question 2: How can I use the hint
I want to understand how to do it according to the hint, if I use the hint does this mean

##\int_0^{{a/2}} {\frac {2} {a}}(1/5)\left[~ \left(2sin(\frac {\pi (x-(a/2))} {a})+i~ sin(\frac {3\pi (x-(a/2))} {a})\right)\left( 2sin(\frac {\pi (x-(a/2))} {a})-i ~sin(\frac {3\pi (x-(a/2))} {a})\right)\right]dx ##

I'm assuming this is wrong because I don't see how this makes it any simpler unless I'm missing something crucial
 
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Moolisa said:
At t = 0, a particle of mass m in an infinite square well with walls at
x = 0
Where is the 2nd wall? Or is it at infinity? Sorry, your statement is a bit confusing to me...
 
berkeman said:
Where is the 2nd wall? Or is it at infinity? Sorry, your statement is a bit confusing to me...
Sorry, I should have been more careful!

Walls are at x=0 to x=a
 
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Set up the integral for the probability integral using ##\psi_1## and ##\psi_3## without substituting the actual forms of those wavefunctions. Multiply out the parentheses to get a sum of integrals.

I think the hint has a typographical error, and it should read "##\psi_n(x) = \psi_n(a-x)##". It's a statement about the symmetry of those wavefunctions. Using the complete hint, you should be able to change the limits on the integrals and put them in a form that you can write down the values immediately without having to plug in the wavefunctions and grind them out. Hint: the wavefunctions are normalized!
 
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