Find the square root of a surd term

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The discussion focuses on finding the square root of the expression \( a + b + \sqrt{2ab + b^2} \). The participants derive that \( \sqrt{a + b + \sqrt{2ab + b^2}} = \pm(\sqrt{x} + \sqrt{y}) \) and establish relationships between \( a, b, x, \) and \( y \) through equations. An alternative method is proposed to express the result with "2 in front of the square root," leading to the conclusion that the square root can be simplified to \( \pm(\sqrt{(a + \frac{b}{2})} + \sqrt{\frac{b}{2}}) \).

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Homework Statement
find the square root of ## a+b+√(2ab +b^2)##
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find the square root of ## a+b+√(2ab +b^2)##

let ##√[a+b+√(2ab +b^2)]= ±(√x +√y)##
then, ##a+b+√(2ab +b^2)= x+y+ 2√(xy)##
where ##a+b=x+y##.......1
##(b+a)^2-a^2=4xy## .....2
from 2,
##a^2=(b+a)^2-4xy##
##a=√[x+y)^2-4xy]##
##a=√[x^2-2xy+y^2]##
##a=x-y##
therefore,
##b=x+y-x+y##
##b=2y##
##y=\frac {b}{2}##
→##x=a+\frac {b}{2}##
this is my original working...i am looking for any alternative method?
 
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After your good effort we can show it in "2 in front of square root" way as
a+b+2\sqrt{(a+\frac{b}{2})\frac{b}{2}}
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
After your good effort we can show it in "2 in front of square root" way as
a+b+2\sqrt{(a+\frac{b}{2})\frac{b}{2}}

why are you going ahead to find the products of the square root? the question simply asked to find the square root and not product of the square root. The square root will be equal to
##±(√x +√y)= ±(√[(a+\frac {b}{2}]##+##√\frac {b}{2}##

looking at your expression, it gives me ## (√x +√y)(√x +√y)= x+y+2√(xy)##
which is not what we are looking for...
 
ok i see what you meant...it was in reference to the equation 2...bingo
 
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This is a solution from a colleague...
 

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