Find the Value of $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$ with $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$

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In summary, the value of $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$ when $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$ is $2019$. To solve the expression, simply substitute the value of $x$ and perform the necessary operations. You can use a calculator to find the value or simplify the expression using factoring and division. The significance of using $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$ is that it is a root of the expression and an irrational number, showing that even irrational values can be solutions.
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$x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$

please find the value of $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$
 
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My solution:

We're given $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$, and this gives us $x^2=\dfrac {2x +1}{4}\rightarrow4x^2-2x=1$ $\therefore 12x^2-6x=3,\,\,4x+\dfrac{8}{x}=2,\,\,20x^2-10x=5$

We're asked to evaluate $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$:

First, we let

$12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x=k$

Manipulating the equation above algebraically, we see that

$12x^2-2x-25+\dfrac{9}{x}=\dfrac{k}{x^2}$

$(12x^2-6x)+\left(4x+\dfrac{8}{x}\right)+\dfrac{1}{x}-25=\dfrac{k}{x^2}$

$3+2+\dfrac{1}{x}-25=\dfrac{k}{x^2}$

$k=-(20x^2-10x)=-5$

$\therefore 12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017=k+2017=-5+2017=2012$
 
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we have $4x-1 = \sqrt(5)$

squaring and reordering we get
$16x^2-8x -4-0$
or $4x^2-2x-1 = 0 \cdots (1)$

now deviding $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+ 9x + 2017$ by $(4x^2-2x-1)$ we find that

$12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017=(4x^2-2x-1)(3x^2+x+5) + 2012= 2012$
 
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A somewhat tedious but perhaps mildly interesting solution:

\(\displaystyle x=\frac{\sqrt5+1}{4}=\frac12\varphi\) where \(\displaystyle \varphi\) is the golden ratio.

Identity: \(\displaystyle \varphi^2=\varphi+1\)

\(\displaystyle 12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017\)

\(\displaystyle =12\left[\frac14(\varphi+1)\right]^2-\frac14(\varphi^2+\varphi)-25\left[\frac14(\varphi+1)\right]+\frac92\varphi+2017\)

\(\displaystyle =\frac34(3\varphi+2)-\frac14(2\varphi+1)-\frac{25}{4}(\varphi+1)+\frac92\varphi+2017\)

\(\displaystyle =\frac94\varphi+\frac32-\frac12\varphi-\frac14-\frac{25}{4}\varphi-\frac{25}{4}+\frac92\varphi+2017\)

\(\displaystyle =2012\)
 
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greg1313 :
yes, very good and very interesting solution !
mine is the same as kaliprasad's solution
 
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1. What is the value of $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$ when $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$?

The value of $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$ when $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$ is $2019$.

2. How do I solve $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$ when $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$?

To solve $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$ when $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$, simply substitute the value of $x$ into the expression and perform the necessary operations to get the final answer of $2019$.

3. Can I use a calculator to find the value of $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$ with $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$?

Yes, you can use a calculator to find the value of $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$ with $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$. Simply enter the expression into the calculator and input the value of $x$ as $\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$ to get the answer of $2019$.

4. How can I simplify $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$ when $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$?

To simplify $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$ when $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$, you can first factor out $x$ to get $x(12x^3-2x^2-25x+9)+2017$. Then, you can use synthetic division or long division to divide $12x^3-2x^2-25x+9$ by $\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$, which will result in a remainder of $0$. Therefore, the simplified form is $x(12x^3-2x^2-25x+9)$.

5. What is the significance of using $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$ in $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$?

The value of $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$ is significant because it is a root of the expression $12x^4-2x^3-25x^2+9x+2017$. This means that when $x=\dfrac {\sqrt 5 +1}{4}$, the entire expression will be equal to $0$. It is also significant because it is an irrational number, which shows that even irrational values can be solutions to equations and expressions.

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