Find the volume of the solid of revolution, or state that it does not exist.

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of the solid of revolution formed by revolving the region bounded by the function f(x) = √((x+3)/(x^3)) and the x-axis over the interval [1, ∞) around the x-axis. Participants explore various methods to compute this volume, including the disk method and the evaluation of improper integrals.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes using the disk method to find the volume, suggesting the integral form involves taking the limit as b approaches infinity.
  • Another participant provides a detailed breakdown of the volume integral, rewriting the integrand and suggesting the use of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus (FTOC) to evaluate the limit.
  • A participant questions the application of L'Hôpital's rule for finding the limit, expressing confusion over the results obtained.
  • Further discussion includes a participant's attempt to apply the FTOC, leading to a conclusion that the volume diverges to infinity.
  • Another participant corrects the misunderstanding regarding indeterminate forms, providing a step-by-step evaluation of the limit and the integral.
  • One participant expresses satisfaction with obtaining a volume of 5/2, while also questioning the classification of the limit as an indeterminate form.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the integration of functions and the incorrect assumption about the relationship between integrals of ratios.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the evaluation of the integral and the classification of limits. While some participants arrive at a volume of 5/2, others express uncertainty about the methods used and the nature of the limits involved.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the application of L'Hôpital's rule and the classification of certain limits as indeterminate forms. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the steps involved in evaluating the improper integral.

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Find the volume of the solid of revolution, or state that it does not exist. The region bounded by f(x)= the square root of ((x+3)/(x^3)) and the x-axis on the interval [1,infinity) is revolved around the x-axis.

I tried using the disk method: pi* (sqrt(((x+3)/(x^3)))^2
Then I think I have to take the limit as b is approaching infinity from 1 to b of pi* (sqrt(((x+3)/(x^3)))^2. But I don't know how to take the limit now. Am I doing this problem correctly? Can someone please help me solve it?
 
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We are given:

$$f(x)=\sqrt{\frac{x+3}{x^3}}$$

The volume of an arbitrary disk is:

$$dV=\pi r^2\,dx$$

where:

$$r=f(x)=\sqrt{\frac{x+3}{x^3}}$$

Hence:

$$dV=\pi\frac{x+3}{x^3}\,dx$$

And so:

$$V=\pi\int_1^{\infty}\frac{x+3}{x^3}\,dx$$

Since this is an improper integral, we may write:

$$V=\pi\lim_{t\to\infty}\left(\int_1^{t}\frac{x+3}{x^3}\,dx \right)$$

I would suggest rewriting the integrand:

$$V=\pi\lim_{t\to\infty}\left(\int_1^{t}x^{-2}+3x^{-3}\,dx \right)$$

Now, apply the FTOC and then take the limit of the result. Can you proceed?
 
Thank you so much for replying! I was just wondering, would it be possible to use lhopital's rule to find the limit since V=πlimt→∞(∫t1x+3x3dx) would be infinity over infinity? I tried that and I got 1/(3x^2) and then tried to apply the fundamental theorem of calculus, but I got the wrong answer, and I don't understand why.
 
Also, I tried proceeding from where you left off, applying the FTOC and I got pi * (lim as b approches infinity of (b^-2 +3b^-3) - 4. So then wouldn't that equal pi * ( infinity + 4) so it would be infinity so it would diverge?
 
No, it's not an indeterminate form...I would write:

$$V=\pi\lim_{t\to\infty}\left(\int_1^{t}x^{-2}+3x^{-3}\,dx \right)=\pi\lim_{t\to\infty}\left(\left[\frac{x^{-1}}{-1}+\frac{3x^{-2}}{-2} \right]_1^t \right)$$

$$V=-\pi\lim_{t\to\infty}\left(\left[\frac{1}{x}+\frac{3}{2x^2} \right]_1^t \right)=-\pi\lim_{t\to\infty}\left(\frac{1}{t}+\frac{3}{2t^2}-\frac{1}{1}-\frac{3}{2} \right)$$

Can you take the limit now?
 
Thanks so much! I got 5/2!

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I have one more question though. Why wasn't it an indeterminate form? It looked like it would be infinity over infinity.
 
abc said:
Thanks so much! I got 5/2!

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I have one more question though. Why wasn't it an indeterminate form? It looked like it would be infinity over infinity.

Don't forget the factor of $\pi$. :D

Do you mean the integrand in its original form? The following is not true in general:

$$\int_a^b\frac{f(x)}{g(x)}\,dx=\frac{\int_a^b f(x)\,dx}{\int_a^b g(x)\,dx}$$
 
Oh okay! Thanks so much again for your help! :)
 

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