Find Value of $k$ for Equation with One Real Solution

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The discussion revolves around finding the value of $k$ for which the equation $x^4+(1-2k)x^2+(k^2-1) = 0$ has exactly one real solution. Participants explore the implications of the discriminant of a related quadratic equation and the conditions under which the quartic equation yields a unique real root.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose using the discriminant of the quadratic form of the quartic equation to determine the values of $k$ that yield one real solution.
  • Others argue that a discriminant of zero does not guarantee a unique real solution for the quartic, as it may lead to negative roots for $u=x^2$.
  • A later reply suggests that for the quartic to have only one real root, the quadratic must have its only positive root at $u=0$, leading to the conditions $1-2k=0$ and $k^2-1=0$.
  • Some participants calculate specific values of $k$, with one suggesting $k=5/4$ but noting that this leads to two real roots for the quartic.
  • Another participant concludes that $k=-1$ is the only value that results in $x=0$ being the sole real root of the quartic equation.

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Participants express differing views on the conditions necessary for the quartic equation to have one real solution. While some agree on the need for the discriminant to be zero, others challenge this by emphasizing the importance of the nature of the roots derived from the quadratic form.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the conditions derived from the discriminant may not fully capture the requirements for the quartic equation to have a unique real solution, particularly regarding the positivity of roots.

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This discussion may be useful for those interested in polynomial equations, particularly in understanding the relationship between quartic and quadratic forms and the implications of discriminants in determining the nature of roots.

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find value of $k$ for which the equation $x^4+(1-2k)x^2+(k^2-1) = 0$ has one real solution
 
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jacks said:
find value of $k$ for which the equation $x^4+(1-2k)x^2+(k^2-1) = 0$ has one real solution

This is a quadratic equation (let $u=x^2$ if you need to make it clearer) so you can use the discriminant to find the values of k - we know that there is one real solution if the discriminant is equal to 0

Hence we're looking for a value of k such that: $b^2 - 4ac = 0$

In this instance
  • $a = 1$
  • $b = 1-2k$
  • $c = k^2 -1$
 
SuperSonic4 said:
This is a quadratic equation (let $u=x^2$ if you need to make it clearer) so you can use the discriminant to find the values of k - we know that there is one real solution if the discriminant is equal to 0
I don't believe that is correct. If the discriminant is 0, then the quadratic has one real root. But if that root is negative, there is no real solution to the quartic while if it is positive, there are two real roots. In order that there be only one real root to the original quartic is if the quadratic has, as its only positive root, u= 0 so that the only real root to the original quartic is 0. That means that the quadratic in u must be simply u^2= 0. In other words, we must have both 1- 2k= 0 and k^2- 1= 0. The first equation has only k= 1/2 as solution and the second has only k= 1 or k= -1 as solutions. There is no value of k that makes both 0 so there is no value of k that gives only a single real root to the original quartic equation.

Hence we're looking for a value of k such that: $b^2 - 4ac = 0$

In this instance
  • $a = 1$
  • $b = 1-2k$
  • $c = k^2 -1$
With those equations,
b^2= (1- 2k)^2= 4k^2- 4k+ 1
4ac= 4k^2- 4 so b^2- 4ac= 4k^2- 4k+ 1- 4k^32+ 4= -4k+ 5= 0 so k= 5/4.
In that case, 1- 2k= 1- 5/2= -3/2 and k^2- 1= 25/16- 1= 9/16. The quadratic equation for u is u^2- (3/2)u+ 9/16= (u- 3/4)^2= 0 so that u= 3/4. But then x^2= 3/4 so the original equation has the two roots x= \sqrt{3}/2 and -\sqrt{3}/2
 
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We are slowly getting there! The equation is a quadratic in $x^2$. Therefore if $x_0$ is a solution, so is $-x_0$. The only way for there to be a unique real solution is if that solution is 0. The condition for 0 to be a solution is that the constant term vanishes. Thus $k^2-1=0,$ and so $k= 1$ or $k=-1.$ If $k=1$ then the equation becomes $x^4 -x^2=0$. But that has solutions $x=\pm1$ as well as $x=0.$ So we can rule out that case, and the only remaining possibility is $k=-1.$

If $k=-1$ then the equation becomes $x^4+3x^2=0$, and that does indeed have $x=0$ as its only real root. So the answer to the problem is that $k=-1.$
 

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