Find $x$ in $\lfloor\frac{x-1}{2}\rfloor+\lfloor\frac{x^2-x}{3}\rfloor=x$

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The discussion centers on solving the equation $\lfloor\frac{x-1}{2}\rfloor+\lfloor\frac{x^2-x}{3}\rfloor=x$ for integer values of $x$. Participants, including kaliprasad and johng, engage in correcting and validating each other's solutions. The conversation highlights the importance of precise calculations and logical reasoning in arriving at the correct integer solutions. Ultimately, the collaborative effort leads to a clearer understanding of the problem and its solutions.

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Find the values of integer $x$ such that $\left\lfloor{\dfrac{x-1}{2}}\right\rfloor+\left\lfloor{\dfrac{x^2-x}{3}}\right\rfloor=x$.
 
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anemone said:
Find the values of integer $x$ such that $\left\lfloor{\dfrac{x-1}{2}}\right\rfloor+\left\lfloor{\dfrac{x^2-x}{3}}\right\rfloor=x$.

we take 2 separate cases

case 1) x is odd say 2m+1



then we get

$m+\lfloor\dfrac{2m(2m+1)}{3}\rfloor= 2m+ 1$

or $\lfloor\dfrac{2m(2m+1)}{3}\rfloor= m+ 1$

or $m+1\le \dfrac{2m(2m+1)}{3}\lt m+ 2$

or $3m+3\le 2m(2m+1) \lt m+ 6$

or $ 3 \le 4m^2 -m \lt 6$

m = 1 or = -1 giving x = 3 or -1case 2) x is even say 2mthen we get

$m-1 +\lfloor\dfrac{2m(2m-1)}{3}\rfloor= 2m $

or $\lfloor\dfrac{2m(2m-1)}{3}\rfloor= m+1 $

or $m+1\le \dfrac{2m(2m-1)}{3}\lt m+2 $

or $3\le 4m^2-5m \lt 6$
giving no solution

so solution x = -1 or 3
 
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kaliprasad said:
we take 2 separate cases

case 1) x is odd say 2m+1



then we get

$m+\lfloor\dfrac{2m(2m+1)}{3}\rfloor= 2m+ 1$

or $\lfloor\dfrac{2m(2m+1)}{3}\rfloor= m+ 1$

or $m+1\le \dfrac{2m(2m+1)}{3}\lt m+ 2$

or $3m+3\le 2m(2m+1) \lt m+ 6$

or $ 3 \le 4m^2 -m \lt 6$

m = 1 or = -1 giving x = 3 or -1case 2) x is even say 2mthen we get

$m-1 +\lfloor\dfrac{2m(2m-1)}{3}\rfloor= 2m $

or $\lfloor\dfrac{2m(2m-1)}{3}\rfloor= m+1 $

or $m+1\le \dfrac{2m(2m-1)}{3}\lt m+2 $

or $3\le 4m^2-5m \lt 6$
giving m = 2 or x = 4so solution x = -1 or 3 or 4

Hi kaliprasad,

Thanks for participating but one of the solutions doesn't satisfy the original equation...(Mmm)
 
anemone said:
Hi kaliprasad,

Thanks for participating but one of the solutions doesn't satisfy the original equation...(Mmm)

my mistake
m =2 and x = 4 is the wrong solution
I shall correct the solution
 
Okay, and thanks, kaliprasad, for participating!

My solution:

The given equality can be rewritten as $\left\lfloor{\dfrac{x-1}{2}}\right\rfloor+\left\lfloor{\dfrac{x(x-1)}{3}}\right\rfloor=x$.

For $x≥1$, we know all the three terms $\left\lfloor{\dfrac{x-1}{2}}\right\rfloor,\,\left\lfloor{\dfrac{x(x-1)}{3}}\right\rfloor$ and $x$ are positive terms therefore $x≥\dfrac{(x² − x)}{3}$ must be correct, solving it for the range of $x$ we get $1≤x≤4$, and $x=3$ is the only possible answer.

A check shows that $x=0$ is clearly out of the question to be a solution to the problem.

Whereas for $x<0$, all the three terms are negative and this leads to $-\left(\dfrac{x-1}{2}\right)≥-x$ must hold, solving it for the range of $x$ we get $x≥-1$, therefore $x=-1$ is the only answer. Thus, the integers $x$ that satisfy the given equality are $-1$ and $3$.
 
anemone said:
Okay, and thanks, kaliprasad, for participating!

My solution:

Whereas for $x≤0$, all the three terms are negative.

for x = 0 the 2nd term is zero
 
kaliprasad said:
for x = 0 the 2nd term is zero

Ops, you're absolutely right...:o
 
Here's another solution.
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johng said:
Here's another solution.

Thanks johng for participating! Your method is good and your solutions are correct.:)
 

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