Finding a curve in 3 space when two equations intersect

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The discussion revolves around finding the intersection curve of two equations in three-dimensional space, specifically the equations of two paraboloids: z = x² + y² and z = x² + (y - 1)². Participants explore methods to determine the intersection and express the resulting curve.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the equations represent two intersecting paraboloids and attempts to find their intersection by equating them.
  • Another participant suggests that equating the two functions leads to the conclusion that y = 1/2, and substituting this value into either function yields the curve of intersection as z = x² + 1/4.
  • A participant expresses confusion about the cancellation of x² terms and the resulting equation y² = (y - 1)², questioning the implications of this step.
  • Further clarification is provided on the expansion of the equation y² = (y - 1)², leading to the same conclusion of y = 1/2 through different approaches.
  • One participant acknowledges their understanding after the clarification, indicating the resolution of their confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the method to find the intersection and arrive at the same value for y, though initial confusion exists regarding the steps taken to reach that conclusion.

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The discussion does not resolve all potential nuances in the approach to finding the intersection, and some assumptions about the behavior of the equations may not be fully explored.

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So I have two equations that intersect: z=x2+y2 which I know is a paraboloid, and z=x2+(y-1)2 which I know is also a paraboloid shifted one unit in the positive y-direction. However I attempted to find the intersection curve and only way I could think to do that was by setting the two equations equal to each other, x2+y2=x2+(y-1)2 however that ended inconclusively. Any help with this would be appreciated. I have to graph it too.
 
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Equating the two functions gives you $\displaystyle y=\frac{1}{2}$ and then using this value for $y$ in either function gives the curve of intersection as:

$\displaystyle z=x^2+\frac{1}{4}$
 
I guess I'm overlooking something dumb right now but when I set them equal to each other, the x2's cancel out and then you have y2=(y-1)2, or y=y-1...
 
Yes, you do get:

$y^2=(y-1)^2$

Now, at this point you don't want to simply take the positive root of both sides (as this has no solution), you want to expand the right side to get:

$y^2=y^2-2y+1$

$0=-2y+1$

$2y=1$

$\displaystyle y=\frac{1}{2}$

Now, initially you could have equated the positive root on the left with the negative root on the right to get:

$y=-(y-1)=1-y$

$2y=1$

$\displaystyle y=\frac{1}{2}$
 
Ahh there we go. Thanks, got it now.
 

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