Finding α for F=F1+F2+F3 to be Parallel to AB

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The discussion revolves around determining the angle α for three forces acting on an object to ensure that their resultant force is parallel to a specified line AB. The forces are given with specific magnitudes and angles, and the problem involves vector addition and trigonometric identities.

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  • Participants explore the vector components of the forces and how they relate to the angle α. There is a focus on rewriting the equation involving cos(α) and sin(α) to facilitate solving for α. Some participants express confusion about the suggested approach and request further clarification.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the mathematical approach to solving the equation. Hints have been provided to reformulate the equation, but there is no consensus on the next steps, as some participants are seeking additional guidance.

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given 3 forces working on one object with dimentions of 6x2

F1=4500N (from the front at an anlge of 39)
F2=9000N (from the front at an angle of -α )
F3=2250N (grom the back at an angle of 180)

see diagram below:
http://picasaweb.google.com/devanlevin/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCL_4l4PpvP_YsQE#5315263399457681474

what must the angle α be in order for the total force applied to be parallel to the line AB, ?
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F=F1+F2+F3 (vectors)

Fx=4500*cos(39) + 9000*cos(α) - 2250
=2250(2*cos(39) + 4*cos(α) - 1)

Fy=4500*sin(39) -9000*sin(α)
=2250(2*sin(39)-4*sin(α))

now in order for this vector to be parallel to AB, it must be at the same angle,-->

2/6=[2250(2*sin(39)-4*sin(α))] / [2250(2*cos(39) + 4*cos(α) - 1)]

(2*cos(39) + 4*cos(α) - 1) = (6*sin(39)-12*sin(α))
cos(α)+3*sin(α) = 0.8054

from here i am stuck, i need to find some trigonometrical identity to help me out, alternatively, another way to solve the problem
 
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Dell said:
cos(α)+3*sin(α) = 0.8054

from here i am stuck, i need to find some trigonometrical identity to help me out, alternatively, another way to solve the problem

Hi Dell! :smile:

(i haven't checked how you got there, but …)

Hint: to solve an equation like this, put it in the form cos(A)cos(α)+sin(A)sin(α) = … :wink:
 
i don't understand, could you continue a bit
 
Dell said:
i don't understand, could you continue a bit

well, for example, if it was cos(α)+sin(α) = 0.8054, you could write that as

cos(α)/√2 + sin(α)/√2 = 0.8054/√2

ie cos(π/4)cos(α) + sin(π/4)sin(α) = 0.8054/√2

so cos(α - π/4) = 0.8054/√2 :smile:
 

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