Find Net Torque: Solve Homework Problem w/ F1, F2, F3, F4, r, R

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The problem involves calculating the net torque on a rotating cylinder subjected to multiple forces. The cylinder has a mass of 2.0 kg and can rotate about its central axis. The forces applied are F1 = 6.0 N, F2 = 4.0 N, F3 = 2.0 N, and F4 = 5.0 N, with distances r = 5.0 cm and R = 12 cm specified.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of net torque and express confusion regarding discrepancies between their calculations and the book's solution. There are inquiries about the correct interpretation of forces and distances in the torque equation.

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Some participants are seeking clarification on their calculations, particularly regarding the net torque value they derived compared to the one provided in the textbook. There is a focus on understanding the reasoning behind the calculations rather than solving the entire problem.

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Participants express uncertainty about the application of forces and their respective distances in the torque calculation, indicating a need for further exploration of the problem setup and assumptions.

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Homework Statement


A cylinder having a mass of 2.0kg can rotate about its central axis through point O. Forces are applied as show: F1 = 6.0N, F2 = 4.0N, F3 = 2.0 N, and F4 = 5.0N. Also, r = 5.0cm and R = 12 cm. Find the (a) magnitude and (b) direction of the angular acceleration of the cylinder.
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as of yet, I'm not looking for the solution to the entire problem, because I'm stuck on the first step of finding the net torque. this is what i have:

net torque = F1R - F2R - F3r + F4R = 6*0.12 - 4*0.12 - 2*0.05 + 0 = 0.14 N m

the book's solution for the net torque is 71 N m. i also got a similar problem wrong for presumably the same reason. the units are Newtons and meters, and I'm sure my calculator works fine. what is going on here?
 
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torque = I*alpha.
Find the moment of inertia of the cylinder and then find angular acceleration.
 
thanks... but can you please tell me why what i was doing was wrong?
 
F4 is considered as torque with respect to the center?
oh just saw that You wrote 0, my bad.
Whati s the answer in the book for the angular acc?
 
lemonpie said:

Homework Statement


net torque = F1R - F2R - F3r + F4R = 6*0.12 - 4*0.12 - 2*0.05 + 0 = 0.14 N m
i'd like to go back to this step, because this is what i found and this is what was written in the student solutions manual, EXCEPT the answer turned out to be 71 N m instead of 0.14 N m and i can't see how that could possibly be the case. I'm also getting other problems wrong at this step, and i can't move forward until i see what I'm doing wrong here, so if anyone could explain to me this particular step, instead of how to solve the entire thing, that would be a really big help to me. thanks!
 

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