Finding a matrix representation for operator A

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The discussion centers on finding a matrix representation for the operator A = x(d/dx) using Legendre polynomials as a basis. The user proposes the integral formula a_{mn} = ∫_{-1}^{1} P_m(x) x(d/dx) P_n(x) dx but faces challenges due to the non-orthonormality of Legendre polynomials, where ⟨P_i|P_l⟩ = δ_{il}(2/(2i+1)). Clarification is sought on whether to multiply the integral by the norm, given the terms' order in n and m. Suggestions include defining the Hilbert space H and the operator's domain D(A) for better assistance.

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I need to find a matrix representation for operator A=x\frac{d}{dx} using Legendre polinomials as base.
I would use a_{mn}=\int^{-1}_{-1}P_m(x)\,x\frac{d}{dx}\,P_n(x)\,dx, but I have the problem that Legendre polinomials aren't orthonormal \langle P_{i}|P_{l}\rangle=\delta_{il}\frac{2}{2i+1}.

I don't know if I must mutiply the integral of the a_{mn} terms by the norm, because I have terms in n and m order.
 
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I have some remarks, to kick things off:
  • To let other help you better, it may be a good idea to specify the Hilbert space ##H## (including a definition of the inner product) on which ##A## acts and the domain ##D(A)## of ##A##.
  • If, for example, ##H = L^2(-1,1)## with the standard inner product, then the (normalized) Legendre polynomials that I know form an orthonormal basis of ##H##.
  • It has always remained somewhat of a mystery to me why physicists (I presume you are one?) insist on representing unbounded operators as matrices.
 
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Msilva said:
I need to find a matrix representation for operator A=x\frac{d}{dx} using Legendre polinomials as base.
I would use a_{mn}=\int^{-1}_{-1}P_m(x)\,x\frac{d}{dx}\,P_n(x)\,dx,
Did you mean ##a_{mn}=\int^{+1}_{-1}P_m(x)\,x\frac{d}{dx}\,P_n(x)\,dx##?
Msilva said:
but I have the problem that Legendre polinomials aren't orthonormal \langle P_{i}|P_{l}\rangle=\delta_{il}\frac{2}{2i+1}.

I don't know if I must mutiply the integral of the a_{mn} terms by the norm, because I have terms in n and m order.
 

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