Finding a stoichiometric coefficient

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The discussion revolves around a chemistry homework problem involving the determination of the stoichiometric coefficient (gamma) in the hydrated compound CuSO4 • γ H2O. Participants explore methods to calculate the value of gamma based on given percentages of elements in the compound.

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  • Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning, Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in solving the problem and seeks hints without direct answers.
  • Another participant suggests using approximations in calculations, specifically recommending a rounded molar mass for copper.
  • A different participant critiques the initial approach, stating that the percentage calculations should consider the total molar mass of the hydrated compound and points out a potential error in the molar mass of CuSO4.
  • This participant also reassures that not obtaining an integer value for gamma is acceptable and suggests rounding values as needed.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to the problem, with differing opinions on how to handle molar mass calculations and the appropriateness of approximations.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific values for molar masses and percentages, but there are unresolved issues regarding the accuracy of these values and the method of incorporating them into the calculations.

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Hello, I am currently taking a college level chemistry class. I am struggling with this problem, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Homework Statement


We have a certain quantity of

CuSO_{4} \cdot \gamma H_{2}O

If our sample is formed of (25,5% Cu), (12% S), (57,7% O) and (4.04% H), what is the value of gamma ?

Homework Equations


None given.

The Attempt at a Solution


I have determined the mass of 1mol of each element, the mass of 1mol of CuSO_4 (111.611g) and really, I'm stuck there.

Please don't spoil the fun for me, just give me some hints.

(edit) : I have done this much more :

Mass of 1mol Cu = 63.546g

(63.546g/111.611g)*100 = 56.94% Cu in CuSO_4

56.94%/25.5% = 2.2328 (increment factor)

So the mass of the hydrated CuSO_4 should be

111.611g * 2,2328= 249.21g

249.21g - 111.611g = 137.6g H2O

and 137.6g/18(g/mol)= 7.6 mol H2O

but it does not give me an integer...
 
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Try some Approximations in calculations. For example, Molar Mass of Cu is good as 63.5.
 
thanks AGNuke, you mean that some approximations could get me closer to an integer coefficient? Do you think my attempt at a solution made sense?
 
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No. You can apply the percentage "after" you had taken the molar mass of all the compound (including the hydration) part in consideration.
Take molar mass of compound as M[CuSO4]+γ[M(H2O)]

Also, you took the molar mass of CuSO4 incorrect.

And don't panic if you don't get answer in integer. Just try rounding them up or down.
 

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