Finding acceleration of elevator using mass

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the acceleration of an elevator based on varying readings from a bathroom scale. The scenario describes a scale reading of 150 lbs at rest, with fluctuations between 120 lbs and 170 lbs during the elevator's movement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between normal force and weight, with attempts to apply dynamics equations to find acceleration. Questions arise regarding the calculation of mass and the consistency of units used.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on substituting values and clarifying the concept of mass in relation to the normal force. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly regarding unit consistency and the application of gravitational force.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted concern about unit consistency in the English system and how to appropriately define mass based on the scale readings. The discussion is framed within the constraints of homework rules, emphasizing the need for understanding rather than direct solutions.

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Homework Statement


one day you take your bathroom scale with you into an elevator. the scale reads 150 lbs as the door closes. the reading varies between 120 lbs and 170 lbs as the elevator travels up. what is the acceleration of the elevator while its accelerating and decelerating?


Homework Equations


dynamics equations


The Attempt at a Solution


from the first part we know that the scale is telling us the normal force.Fg=Fn Fn=150lbs
for the accelerating phase F= Fn-Fg, ma=170lbs - mg
this is where i get stuck. where should i go from here?
 
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mjolnir80 said:
from the first part we know that the scale is telling us the normal force.Fg=Fn Fn=150lbs
The scale always gives the normal force. The initial reading tells you your weight (mg).
for the accelerating phase F= Fn-Fg, ma=170lbs - mg
this is where i get stuck. where should i go from here?
You're doing fine. Substitute the value of mg (the weight) and solve for "a". (Figure out your mass.)
 
Fn = mg (for the first part) m= Fn/ g is that the mass? the units don't really match though

and what do i substitute in for mg ? 150 lbs?
 
mjolnir80 said:
Fn = mg (for the first part) m= Fn/ g is that the mass?
Correct.
the units don't really match though
It's up to you to use consistent units. What's the value of g in the English system? What's the unit of mass?
and what do i substitute in for mg ? 150 lbs?
Yes.
 
thanks for the help
 

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