Weight in an elevator? Free body diagrams

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The discussion focuses on calculating the weight reading on a scale in an elevator under different conditions: accelerating down at 4 m/s², accelerating up at 4 m/s², and in free fall. For a 60 kg student, the scale reads 828 N when accelerating down, 348 N when accelerating up, and 588 N during free fall. The calculations emphasize the importance of correctly applying Newton's second law and understanding the effects of acceleration on perceived weight.

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A 60kg student is standing on a scale in an elevator that measures weight in Newtons. Calculate the reading on the scale if the elevator is accelerating down at 4 m/s^2...when the elevator is accelerating up at 4 m/s^2... and in free fall.

Not sure if my work/answer is correct

accelerating down (up is positive)
Fnet= Fn - Fg
ma = Fn - mg
(60)(-4)= Fn - (60)(-9.8)
-240 = Fn +588
Fn = -828
∴ Fn = 828 N(Down)

accelerating up (up is positive)
Fnet = Fn - Fg
240 = Fn +588
Fn = -348
∴Fn = 348 N(down)

Free fall: the weight of the student is the same as if he/she were standing on the ground(588N) since gravity is still present and the student's mass remains constant.
 
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You did it incorrectly, because the Fg should be added to the Fn, not subtracted. You take care of its direction by making its acceleration, g negative (so it points downwards). Also think about it intuitively- the student should press down on the scale "harder" if the elevator is accelerating upwards instead of downwards, but you got a lower value. In free fall, it's also incorrect. Imagine if you're falling and the elevator is falling as well. You feel "weightless", so what would the scale reading be?
 

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