Finding Coefficient of Restitution for 2D Collision

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The discussion revolves around a two-dimensional collision involving two particles of different masses. The original poster seeks to determine the coefficient of restitution given specific initial velocities and conditions of the collision.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the velocities of the particles before and after the collision, questioning the assumptions about the common tangent and the conservation of momentum in different directions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the definitions and implications of the common tangent and normal planes in the context of the collision. There is ongoing exploration of how to apply the coefficient of restitution formula, with some guidance offered on using momentum conservation principles.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted assumption regarding the direction of the common normal and the implications for the velocities involved in the collision. The original poster has indicated a specific condition regarding the final velocity of one particle being purely in the j-direction, which may affect the calculations.

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Homework Statement


Two particles A and B of mass [tex]m[/tex] and [tex]3m[/tex] respectively, A collides with B. Find the coefficient of restitution [tex]e[/tex] if [tex]\textbf{v}_{A}[/tex] is purely in the [tex]\textbf{j}[/tex]-direction.

Velocity of each particle before collision.
[tex]\dot{\textbf{r}}_{A}=9 \textbf{i}+5\textbf{j}[/tex]
[tex]\dot{\textbf{r}}_{B}=2 \textbf{i}+2\textbf{j}[/tex]

The x and y velocity components before collision
[tex]\dot{x}_{A}[/tex], [tex]\dot{y}_{A}[/tex], [tex]\dot{x}_{B}[/tex] and [tex]\dot{y}_{B}[/tex]

The x and y velocity components after collision
[tex]\dot{X}_{A}[/tex], [tex]\dot{Y}_{A}[/tex], [tex]\dot{X}_{B}[/tex] and [tex]\dot{Y}_{B}[/tex]

Homework Equations


The common tangent is the [tex]\textbf{j}[/tex] axis.

[tex]\dot{y}_{A}\textbf{j}=\dot{Y}_{A}\textbf{j}[/tex] and [tex]\dot{y}_{B}\textbf{j}=\dot{Y}_{B}\textbf{j}[/tex]

[tex](\dot{X}_{A}-\dot{X}_{B})\textbf{i}=-e(\dot{x}_{A}-\dot{x}_{B})\textbf{i}[/tex]

[tex]m\dot{\textbf{r}}=m\textbf{v}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


With the values above I find the velocities after collision

[tex]\textbf{v}_{A}=(-\frac{21}{4}e+\frac{15}{4})\textbf{i}+5\textbf{j}[/tex]
[tex]\textbf{v}_{B}=(\frac{7}{4}e+\frac{15}{4})\textbf{i}+2\textbf{j}[/tex]

How do I find [tex]e[/tex] if [tex]\textbf{v}_{A}[/tex] is purely in the [tex]\textbf{j}[/tex]-direction?

If I use(which is in the i-direction)

[tex](\dot{X}_{A}-\dot{X}_{B})=-e(\dot{x}_{A}-\dot{x}_{B})[/tex]

I get [tex]e=0[/tex], a totally inelastic collision.

Thanks in advance.
 
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What do you think is the correct expression for the coefficient of restitution when you have a collision in 2-d? How did you conclude that the y-component of each particle's momentum is the same before and after the collision? Finally, what is a "common tangent" and why is it the y-axis?
 
Hi

The common tangent is the plane perpendicular to the common normal plane. We are told the common normal is in the i-direction. In the course text we are told

'In an (instantaneous) collision between two smooth non-rotating objects, where the area of contact at the moment of impact lies on a common tangent plane, the velocities parallel to the tangent plane remain unchanged before and after impact.'

Thanks
 
bobred said:
Hi

The common tangent is the plane perpendicular to the common normal plane. We are told the common normal is in the i-direction. In the course text we are told

'In an (instantaneous) collision between two smooth non-rotating objects, where the area of contact at the moment of impact lies on a common tangent plane, the velocities parallel to the tangent plane remain unchanged before and after impact.'

Thanks
OK, then, the coefficient of restitution is given by

[tex]e=\left| \frac{\dot{X_A}-\dot{X}_B}{\dot{x_A}-\dot{x}_B} \right|[/tex]
You know both terms in the denominator and it is given that

[tex]\dot{X}_A=0[/tex]

Use momentum conservation in the x-direction to find the remaining term.
 
Hi

Thanks for the reply, in explaining to you the coordinate system it got me thinking again and obviously there is no [tex]\dot{X}_A[/tex] so obviously I need to solve

[tex] (\dot{X}_{A}-\dot{X}_{B})=-e(\dot{x}_{A}-\dot{x}_{B})[/tex]

for e

Thanks
 
I hope you can finish from this point.
 
Yes, all done, thanks again
 

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