Finding Convex Lens Focal Length

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the focal length of a convex lens using recorded data on image distance and magnification. Participants are analyzing the relationship between these variables through graphical representation and lens formulas.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the lens formula and its implications for the relationship between image distance, object distance, and magnification. There are questions about the interpretation of the gradient in the context of the graph and its relation to the focal length.

Discussion Status

Some participants are providing insights into the mathematical relationships and the correct interpretation of the graph. There is an ongoing exploration of how to manipulate the lens formula and the implications of the data collected, with no explicit consensus reached on the interpretations presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of constant versus variable object distance in relation to the focal length, as well as the conditions under which the data was collected. There are indications of confusion regarding the application of the lens formula and the graphical representation of the data.

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Homework Statement


Following data recorded:

Di (distance image to lens) 6.0 8.0 10.0 12.0 14.0
Magnification 0.2 0.6 1.0 1.4 1.8

Graph magnification against di and use the graph to find the focal length of the lens.



Homework Equations


\frac{1}{di}+\frac{1}{d(object)]}=\frac{1}{f}
M=\frac{di}{do}


The Attempt at a Solution


I worked out that the gradient should be equal to \frac{M}{di}
=\frac{1}{do}

Since the gradient is obviously 0.2, this leaves me with a constant value for do of 5cm, which is in fact the correct answer for the focal length. It doesn't make sense that there would be constant do value, nor does it make sense that this value would be the same as the focal length since no image is formed when object on focal length. Any instruction on manipulating these formulae is much appreciated.
 
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Th lens formula is
1/di + 1/do = 1/f

1 + di/do = di/f or
1 + M = di/f. or M = di/f - 1
It is in the form
y = mx + c. Here y is M, x is di and m is 1/f.
 
rl.bhat said:
Th lens formula is
1/di + 1/do = 1/f

1 + di/do = di/f or
1 + M = di/f. or M = di/f - 1
It is in the form
y = mx + c. Here y is M, x is di and m is 1/f.

Thanks for the reply. So you've multiplied everything by di, but what does that actually show? As in why would you do it? Also, why isn't the gradient simply 1/do since (di/do)/di = 1/do?
 
You have collected data by keeping the screen at 6.0 8.0 10.0 12.0 14.0 and adjusting the position of the object to get clear image. In that position you have measured the magnification.
so you have drawn the graph of image distance vs magnification.
The gradient is (M1 - M2)/di1 - di2)
The gradient is 1/f, not 1/do. In the problem do is not constant.
To draw the graph, you have to form the relation between M, di and f by using the lens formula.
 

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