Finding current density given B-field

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The problem involves finding the current density as a function of distance from the axis in a radially symmetrical stream of electrons, given that the magnetic induction varies as B=br^a, where b and a are positive constants.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the magnetic field and current density, referencing Ampere's circuital law. There are inquiries about the appropriate substitutions for line and surface integrals in the context of radial symmetry.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring various interpretations and mathematical approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of integrals and the implications of radial symmetry, but no consensus has been reached on the final steps or solutions.

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There is uncertainty regarding the integration process and the definitions of the variables involved, particularly in relation to the limits of integration and the form of the current density.

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Homework Statement


Find the current density as a function of distance ##r## from the axis of a radially symmetrical parallel stream of electrons if the magnetic induction inside the stream varies as ##B=br^a##, where ##b## and ##a## are positive constants.


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Honestly, I don't have any idea for this problem. I don't see any equations in my notes which relates the B-field and current density.

Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Pranav-Arora said:
I don't see any equations in my notes which relates the B-field and current density.
No, but I'm sure you have an equation for the field based on the current in a wire. Won't it just be a matter of integrating the density, viewed as many wire elements?
 
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haruspex said:
No, but I'm sure you have an equation for the field based on the current in a wire. Won't it just be a matter of integrating the density, viewed as many wire elements?

Ampere's circuital law?

[tex]\int \textbf{B}\cdot d\textbf{l} = \mu_o\int \textbf{J} \cdot d\textbf{S}[/tex]
What should I replace dl with? ##2\pi r##?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Ampere's circuital law?

[tex]\int \textbf{B}\cdot d\textbf{l} = \mu_o\int \textbf{J} \cdot d\textbf{S}[/tex]
What should I replace dl with? ##2\pi r##?


Because of radial symmetry, the vector B is tangential to the circles around the axis and its magnitude depends only on the distance from the axis. dl=rdθ and yes, the line integral is B(2πr).

ehild
 
ehild said:
Because of radial symmetry, the vector B is tangential to the circles around the axis and its magnitude depends only on the distance from the axis. dl=rdθ and yes, the line integral is B(2πr).

ehild

That gives me
[tex]2\pi b r^{a+1}=\mu_o \int \textbf{J} \cdot d\textbf{S}[/tex]
Is ##dS=2\pi rdr##?

And how am I supposed to solve the above equation? :confused:
 
Pranav-Arora said:
That gives me
[tex]2\pi b r^{a+1}=\mu_o \int \textbf{J} \cdot d\textbf{S}[/tex]
Is ##dS=2\pi rdr##?

And how am I supposed to solve the above equation? :confused:

Plug in the expression for dS. The integral is valid for all r. You get an equation of form f(r)=0r∫g(r')dr'. How do you get g(r)?

ehild
 
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ehild said:
Plug in the expression for dS. The integral is valid for all r. You get an equation of form f(r)=0r∫g(r')dr'. How do you get g(r)?

ehild

Thank you ehild! :smile:

I get
[tex]br^{a+1}=\int_0^{r}\textbf{J}rdr[/tex]
Differentiating both the sides,
[tex]\Rightarrow (a+1)br^{a}=\textbf{J}r[/tex]
[tex]\Rightarrow \textbf{J}=(a+1)br^{a-1}[/tex]
 

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