Finding current through resistor (Kirchhoff's Laws)

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The discussion revolves around a circuit analysis problem involving Kirchhoff's Laws, specifically focusing on calculating the current through resistor R4 in a circuit with multiple resistors and a voltage source. The resistances given are R1 = 5 Ω, R2 = 8 Ω, R3 = 8 Ω, R4 = 8 Ω, and V0 = 8.0 V.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find the equivalent resistance of the circuit and calculates the current through R4 but expresses confusion about the correctness of their approach. Some participants suggest using the junction rule to analyze current distribution in parallel branches and question the voltage division across resistors.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing guidance and suggesting considerations regarding the voltage across resistors in parallel and the implications of the junction rule. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's efforts, and further exploration of the circuit's behavior is encouraged.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the potential difference across R4 is not equal to the battery voltage and emphasize the need to consider how voltage divides in the circuit. The original poster's calculations and assumptions about equivalent resistance and current distribution are under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement



Consider the circuit shown in the diagram below, for R1 = 5 Ω, R2 = 8 Ω, R3 = 8 Ω, R4 = 8 Ω, and V0 = 8.0 V. Calculate the current through R4.

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Homework Equations



Loop rule: The sum of all potential changes around a closed loop is zero

Junction rule: The currents entering and leaving a junction are equal

V = IR

The Attempt at a Solution



I guess I'm kind of lost with where to begin. The examples in class were a little more simplified but I'll say what my thought process is to solving it.

First I found the equivalent resistance through the whole circuit

1/R4 + 1/R3 = 1/Req34
1/8 + 1/8 = 1/Req34

Req34 = 4 Ω

Then that resistance + R2 = the equivalent resistance on the far left loop

4 + 8 = 12 Ω

Once more, to find the equivalent resistance between that and R1, I went

1/12 + 1/R1 = 1/Req

Req for the circuit = 3.53 Ω

Then to find the current through R4, I've been using V = IR where V = 8.0 V and Req = 3.53

I = 2.27 A

This is incorrect, I'm just not quite sure how else to approach this problem. Am I on the right track?

Thanks!
 
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Yes, you are definitely on the right track. Right now, it looks like you have calculated the circuit current (current through the battery). If this was a series circuit, then everything would also have the same current, but because there are some parallel components, you must calculate how much current goes through each "fork" (use junction rule).

Remember that the lower the resistance, the more current that's going to go through that wire when it splits, so you will have to calculate the Req of each wire coming from each fork. (You are doing very well, so I think this is enough guidance for now. If you are still stumped, let us know ^_^)
 
Potential difference across R4 is not 8.0 V. Voltage of the battery divides itself between Req34 and R2. Think how will 8.0V divide itself.

[Hint: Take the potential difference as V1 and V 2 for potential difference across Req34 and R2 respectively. After that find out the ratio \frac{V<sub>1</sub> }{V<sub>2</sub> } , using the relation V=IR]
 
Hollumber said:
Yes, you are definitely on the right track. Right now, it looks like you have calculated the circuit current (current through the battery). If this was a series circuit, then everything would also have the same current, but because there are some parallel components, you must calculate how much current goes through each "fork" (use junction rule).

Remember that the lower the resistance, the more current that's going to go through that wire when it splits, so you will have to calculate the Req of each wire coming from each fork. (You are doing very well, so I think this is enough guidance for now. If you are still stumped, let us know ^_^)

Okay, so I have the total circuit current and all of the individual resistances and the battery's voltage. I'm a little confused on where to go from here to be honest!
 
BMcC said:
Okay, so I have the total circuit current and all of the individual resistances and the battery's voltage. I'm a little confused on where to go from here to be honest!

I'd say that since R4 is pretty much the last resistor you get to, you might as well take it leg by leg. For example, have you noticed that R1 branch is parallel to the whole equivalent R234 branch? What do you know about the voltage across parallel branches?

After that, it's just Junction Rule to find out how much current remains after the R1 branch, and you're on your way.
 
It looks like you have two branches of wire that share the same two nodes. This means they must be equipotential, right?

On the second branch, notice again that your third and fourth resistor share nodes, so these are also equipotential.

Perhaps if you could find the voltage drop over R2, and subtract that from the total voltage drop over that length of wire, you could find the drop over your two parallel resistors, R3 and R4
 
Using a coloured pen, trace the complete circuit taken by the battery current passing through R4.
 

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