Finding Direction: Deciding Majors for 2nd Year Undergrad

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The discussion centers on the decision-making process for second-year undergraduate students regarding their majors, specifically in physics, mathematics, and engineering. The original plan of pursuing a double major in physics and mathematics is reconsidered due to concerns about career prospects in academia and industry. Participants suggest that a physics PhD can lead to lucrative finance positions, particularly in New York, with starting salaries reaching up to $130,000. Additionally, gaining programming experience, especially in C++, is emphasized as a valuable asset for securing jobs in finance.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of undergraduate degree structures in physics, mathematics, and engineering
  • Familiarity with career paths for physics PhD graduates
  • Knowledge of programming languages, particularly C++
  • Awareness of job market trends in academia and finance
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the job market for physics PhD graduates in finance
  • Explore programming courses focusing on C++ for finance applications
  • Investigate master's programs in engineering and their career outcomes
  • Evaluate the benefits of minoring in engineering alongside a physics and mathematics double major
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Undergraduate students in their second year, academic advisors, and anyone considering a career in physics, mathematics, or engineering, particularly with an interest in finance and programming.

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Hello. I am going into my second year of undergraduate education. I was originally planning to double major in physics and mathematics, and afterwards pursue a PhD in physics. However, I am currently undecided due to career prospects since the field is now difficult for both academia and industry, from what I’ve read. I am thinking I might double major in physics and engineering instead, so I can be an engineer as a backup plan. Or engineering and mathematics? Or pursue a Master's in engineering? I am lost right now, and need advice. Thank you very much.
 
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Ignore job prospects for a moment. What do you want to do? Math? Physics? Engineering? There's no point in majoring or minoring in something that you're not going to enjoy.
 
I'm pretty much exactly like you (second year Physics and Math, and was thinking about switching to engineering) so I've thought about this a lot myself. The conclusion I came to was that job prospects for Physics (or math) PhD's are not bad at all, especially if you're willing to relocate to NY and work in finance and I think a very experienced person on this forum (twofish-quant) would agree with me on that. According to him starting salaries for a Physics PhD's working in finance in NY can be upto 130k and within a few years cross the 200k mark. Furthermore, if you can gain a significant amount of programming experience while doing your PhD, jobs as a programmer aren't hard to find either. From what I've heard jobs are poor in academia though, so as long as you're willing to leave academia, I think you should be fine with a Physics PhD.

After you are done with your bachelors and you decide that a PhD isn't for you, you can always go for a masters in engineering and then work as an engineer from there on. So my current plan is to continue double majoring in Math and Physics, maybe minor in an engineering discipline that I may find interesting, and if I don't feel like doing a PhD anymore, get a masters in engineering. Otherwise, I'm going to get a PhD and hopefully it should be fine job-wise.

Edit: For those finance jobs significant programming experience (especially in C++) is highly desirable, right twofish?
 
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