Finding energy eigenvalue of a harmonic oscillator using a Hamiltonian

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The discussion revolves around finding the energy eigenvalue of a harmonic oscillator using a Hamiltonian. The problem involves the Schrödinger equation and the potential energy associated with the harmonic oscillator, including additional terms related to a parameter λ.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss various methods for solving the differential equation derived from the Hamiltonian. There is uncertainty about whether to use differential equation methods or alternative approaches. Some participants suggest using known solutions for harmonic oscillators and explore the implications of the potential terms on the eigenvalues.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and alternative methods for approaching the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of existing solutions and the interpretation of the Hamiltonian. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of different parameters and potential forms.

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Participants note the problem involves a 2D harmonic oscillator and discuss the degeneracy of energy levels. There is mention of specific assumptions regarding the equality of frequencies in different dimensions and the implications for calculating degeneracy.

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Homework Statement


Find the energy eigenvalue.


Homework Equations



H = (p^2)/2m + 1/2m(w^2)(x^2) + λ(x^2)

Hψ=Eψ

The Attempt at a Solution



So this is what I got so far:

((-h/2m)(∂^2/∂x^2)+(m(w^2)/2 - λ)(x^2))ψ=Eψ

I'm not sure if I should solve this using a differential equation method, or is there an easier trick?

Thank you!
 
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I'm not sure if I should solve this using a differential equation method, or is there an easier trick?
... you should solve using the DE methods.

Since the potential is in x only, the partials become exact[1]:
$$\left ( \frac{-\hbar^2}{2m}\frac{d^2}{dx^2} + \zeta x^2 - E \right )\psi(x) = 0 : 2\zeta = m\omega^2+2\lambda$$... and it is really useful for these things to learn to use ##\LaTeX## :)

Note: You had:
((-h/2m)(∂^2/∂x^2)+(m(w^2)/2 - λ)(x^2))ψ=Eψ
I don't know why you didn't square your ##\hbar## or why you have a ##-\lambda## in there but the setup has a ##+\lambda##.
Also, I'm guessing by "##h##" you meant ##\hbar=h/2\pi## since the momentum operator is ##-i\hbar\frac{\partial}{\partial x}##.

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[1] if you are expected to do this in 3D, then you'll have to deal with the other two directions.
 
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Ok, so now I tried to perform the differential equation, but then I get an equation in the form of:

Ψ=Ae(ς-E)x+Be(-(ς-E)x)

How can I find the energy eigenvalue from this equation?
 
You put it into the Schrödinger equation and solve for E.

But I am not sure that wavefunction is a solution... don't you associate Gaussians with harmonic oscillator potentials?
 
We haven't done any sort of Gaussian...

But I came up with another way to solve, can you see if this makes sense:

I can write the Hamiltonian as:

[itex]H =\frac{p^2}{2m} + x^2 (\frac{m\varpi^2}{2} + \frac{\lambda}{\sqrt{2}})[/itex]

or

[itex]H = \frac{p^2}{2m} + \frac{mω'^2x^2}{2}[/itex]

where

[itex]ω'=\sqrt{ω^2+\frac{\sqrt{2}λ}{m}}[/itex]

then I can use

[itex]E = (\hbar)ω'(n+\frac{1}{2})[/itex]
 
Sure - you can exploit existing solutions. What what stopping you from writing ##m\omega^{\prime 2} = \zeta## before? (and using the same trick?)
 
Good point! I can also do it that way, I'll try it out.

This problem involves a 2D harmonic oscillator (which the Hamiltonian was for x). To find the degeneracy of the first excited state, can I state that since ωxy=ω, that n = nx + ny.

Then I can write ny=n - x, and set up the following sum:
[itex]\sum(n-n_{x}) = \frac{1}{2}n(n+1)[/itex]
where the sum is from nx=0 to n.

So, using the equation to solve for n=1 (first excited state), I get the degeneracy is equal to 1. Is this correct or am I missing something?
 

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