Finding Exact Values of Trig Expressions w/o Calculator

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The discussion focuses on finding the exact value of the trigonometric expression sin(-π/12) csc(25π/12) without using a calculator. The user initially struggles with the properties of trigonometric functions, particularly the negative angle identity and the cosecant function. Through collaborative input, it is clarified that sin(-π/12) can be expressed using the sine difference formula, specifically sin(π/6 - π/4), leading to the correct evaluation of the expression as -1. The importance of understanding special triangles and half-angle formulas is emphasized for solving such problems.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of trigonometric identities, specifically sin(-θ) = -sin(θ).
  • Familiarity with the cosecant function, defined as csc(θ) = 1/sin(θ).
  • Knowledge of the sine difference formula: sin(a - b) = sin(a)cos(b) - cos(a)sin(b).
  • Ability to utilize special triangles for sine and cosine values.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the sine difference formula in detail to enhance problem-solving skills.
  • Learn about special triangles and their applications in trigonometry.
  • Practice using half-angle formulas for evaluating trigonometric expressions.
  • Explore additional trigonometric identities to strengthen foundational knowledge.
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Students studying trigonometry, educators teaching trigonometric identities, and anyone seeking to improve their skills in evaluating trigonometric expressions without calculators.

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Homework Statement


Use properties of the trigonometric functions to find the exact value of each expression. Do not use a calculator

sin (-pi/12) csc (25 pi)/12


Homework Equations


sin (negative angle) = - sin (angle)
csc theta = (sin theta)^-1 = 1/(sin theta)


The Attempt at a Solution


Ok there is obviously some sort of property of trig identies I do not know so I'm struggling here...

sin(-pi/12) csc( (25 pi)/12 ) = (- sin(pi/12) )/(sin( (25 pi)/12))
know if I'm correct I just treat them as exponents correct? so I subtract them

- sin( (pi/12) - ( (25 pi)/12 )
- sin( (-24 pi)/12 )
+ sin( (24 pi)/12
sin 2 pi = 0

OK THIS IS WRONG I put this into my calculator and i get negative one. I postulated for like two hours on how to do this. I think I figuered it out but am not sure why it works can someone please explain it to me...

ok I start out here
sin(-pi/12) csc( (25 pi)/12 ) = (- sin(pi/12) )/(sin( (25 pi)/12))


then
- sin( (pi/12) - ( (25 pi)/12 )

- sin( (24 pi)/12 )

if i just ignore the negative sign next to the 24... something here is wrong with what I'm doing HELP

- sin( (24 pi)/12 )

now I take the recipical but leave the pi on top of the angle not sure why or why i leave pi on top

- sin( (12 pi)/24

simplify

- sin( pi/2

pi/2 is ninety degrees which has the coordinates (0,1) and sense sine is equal to the y cordinate I get one but sense it's the opposite i get negative 1 as my answer which is correct

So I obviously have no idea how to really do this problem if someone could tell me how to do this that would be great. There isn't really much I can do because I'm obviously don't know some property or something here.

Thanks
 
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None of your algebraic manipulations make any sense. You are just making up operations that don't exist.

Notice that Pi/12 is half of pi/6 and you know the functions for multiples of pi/6. Look at the half angle formulas instead of trying to make up your own.
 
I have yet to have been taught these formulas yet so there must be some other way to do it
 
Here are the two special triangles I've used in the past: http://fouss.pbworks.com/f/special triangle 3.JPG and http://fouss.pbworks.com/f/special triangle 2.JPG and recall that sin (a-b)=(sin a)(cos b)-(sin b)(cos a)

Now sin \frac{-pi}{12} = sin (\frac{pi}{6} - \frac{pi}{4}) = sin \frac{pi}{6} * cos \frac{pi}{4} - sin \frac{pi}{4} * cos \frac{pi}{6}

Use the special triangles (unless you have them memorized, which you should have) and solve.

Edit: Sorry I thought you were doing two different equations. I now see that sin (-pi/12) * csc (25 pi)/12 is what you want. I guess you can do the second one and after solving it, multiple both answers.
 
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