Finding f(x) Using Limit and Algebraic Manipulation

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To find f(x) given the limit lim x->1 (f(x)-8)/(x-1) = 10, it is established that f(x) must approach 8 as x approaches 1, indicating that lim x->1 f(x) = 8. The discussion highlights the importance of creating a new function g(x) to simplify the limit calculation, although the exact form of g(x) is not specified. It is noted that the limit's existence relies on the ratio tending to the indeterminate form 0/0 as x approaches 1. Additionally, while L'Hôpital's Rule could be applied for further analysis, it is emphasized that the primary solution does not require it, focusing instead on the algebraic manipulation of the limit.
  • #31
Whoah, I'm interested in this one too now.

If lim x->1 g(x) = c what do you mean by "what g(x) would simplify things" in the product of the 2 limits?
 
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lendav_rott said:
Whoah, I'm interested in this one too now.

If lim x->1 g(x) = c what do you mean by "what g(x) would simplify things" in the product of the 2 limits?

You CREATE a new limit to multiply with the limit you're given. What limit would simplify things?
 
  • #33
Just create any g(x), find the limit, see if it simplifies things.

Try g(x)=cos(x). Try g(x)=x^2. Try g(x)=sqrt(x).
See what happens. Does it simplify things?
 
  • #34
Why make the problem so complicated?

The ONLY way for the limit to exist is for the ratio to tend to the indeterminate form ##\frac{0}{0}## as ##x \to 1##.

That happens when ##\lim_{x \to 1} (f(x) - 8) = 0##, or simply ##\lim_{x \to 1} f(x) = 8##.

That's all that's needed.

The RHS doesn't influence that answer at all. What it does is influence the limit of ##f'(x)## (the first derivative) as ##x \to 1##. By L' Hopital's Rule, differentiating the numerator and denominator separately gives the result ##\lim_{x \to 1} f'(x) = 10##. But this part is just for interest, and not needed for the original answer.
 
  • #35
That's another way to do it, although I'm not sure if he cover l'hopitals.I would comment that you don't know f is differentiable; but if it is differentiable, your last paragraph is cool.
 
  • #36
johnqwertyful said:
That's another way to do it, although I'm not sure if he cover l'hopitals.


I would comment that you don't know f is differentiable; but if it is differentiable, your last paragraph is cool.

There is no need to invoke L' Hopital's for the answer - that's just algebra.

I only used L' Hopital's Rule for the latter part ("for interest"), which is where the RHS would come into play. I should've stated that f(x) has to be differentiable around the neighbourhood of x = 1 for this to be valid.
 

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