Finding f(x) Using Limit and Algebraic Manipulation

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The discussion focuses on finding the function f(x) such that the limit as x approaches 1 of (f(x) - 8)/(x - 1) equals 10. Participants clarify that to solve this, one must recognize that the limit exists when f(1) = 8, leading to the conclusion that f(x) must be continuous at x = 1. Additionally, the derivative f'(1) can be determined using L'Hôpital's Rule, yielding f'(1) = 10, provided f(x) is differentiable around x = 1. The key takeaway is that the limit's existence hinges on the behavior of f(x) near x = 1.

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  • #31
Whoah, I'm interested in this one too now.

If lim x->1 g(x) = c what do you mean by "what g(x) would simplify things" in the product of the 2 limits?
 
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  • #32
lendav_rott said:
Whoah, I'm interested in this one too now.

If lim x->1 g(x) = c what do you mean by "what g(x) would simplify things" in the product of the 2 limits?

You CREATE a new limit to multiply with the limit you're given. What limit would simplify things?
 
  • #33
Just create any g(x), find the limit, see if it simplifies things.

Try g(x)=cos(x). Try g(x)=x^2. Try g(x)=sqrt(x).
See what happens. Does it simplify things?
 
  • #34
Why make the problem so complicated?

The ONLY way for the limit to exist is for the ratio to tend to the indeterminate form ##\frac{0}{0}## as ##x \to 1##.

That happens when ##\lim_{x \to 1} (f(x) - 8) = 0##, or simply ##\lim_{x \to 1} f(x) = 8##.

That's all that's needed.

The RHS doesn't influence that answer at all. What it does is influence the limit of ##f'(x)## (the first derivative) as ##x \to 1##. By L' Hopital's Rule, differentiating the numerator and denominator separately gives the result ##\lim_{x \to 1} f'(x) = 10##. But this part is just for interest, and not needed for the original answer.
 
  • #35
That's another way to do it, although I'm not sure if he cover l'hospital's.I would comment that you don't know f is differentiable; but if it is differentiable, your last paragraph is cool.
 
  • #36
johnqwertyful said:
That's another way to do it, although I'm not sure if he cover l'hospital's.


I would comment that you don't know f is differentiable; but if it is differentiable, your last paragraph is cool.

There is no need to invoke L' Hopital's for the answer - that's just algebra.

I only used L' Hopital's Rule for the latter part ("for interest"), which is where the RHS would come into play. I should've stated that f(x) has to be differentiable around the neighbourhood of x = 1 for this to be valid.
 

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